hey guys i was just reading the topic of the marriage of cousins and i thought of something bigger...how about marriage of different religion??i know it is absoulutly wrong but what about if two loved each other so much and both of them aren't the same religion and for example they wanted to get married and one of them changed to the other religion...is that still wrong??
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if it was wrong the church would not allow it. however, sense in the sacrement of marrige the man and the woman become one, so they must share the same religion, and beliefs. that is why when a non-orthodox person wants to marry an orthodox person they must be batized as an orthodox before they can go and do the engagment cermony. after that they can decide on the wedding date and then they can finally be married.
hope this helps
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"No servant can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or else he will be loyal to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and mammon."
if u leave christ for "love" than ur out of ur mind obviously :(
inorder to be baptized, at least in the souther diocees, the bishope has to approve it as far as in know
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*what does that mean??*
well the people that i know who weren't baptized, asked the bishop if they could become orthodox, and he told them to read certain books first, then he wanted to talk to them again to see if they really wanted to become orthodox.
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well i'm not really old, but i know that u never know who god has planned for u. maybe the person u like isn't going to be the one god has planned, my advice, stay open to wat god has in store for you.
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"Well, if the person can change their religion and they are Coptic Orthdox.. then it is ok. The only wrong thing is if a person that is Coptic changes."*sorry for complaining*
i must say something, no one can force u to do something, like a priest can't force to be a monk. but they can infulence u. but once u do it, then it's ur action not theirs.
sorry if this is confusing
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the last bible study we had was about king david and the sins which he comited. two major sins he comited were adultry, and murder. god forgave him however. he forgave him because david's heart was like god's. it was pure. this shows that even a pure person can fall into sin, not because the devil made him, but rather because they chose to. abouna explained it in this way: the devil is like a traveler who is walking by and asks u if he can come into ur home. you can either close the door, or u can invite him in because he APEARS as if he need a place to stay. but later, without u relising it, he becomes ur master. and the only maset we have is god, if the devil is our master, it's like saying he is our father. this is not right, our father is god. if we let the devil come in, we are letting him into our mind, our body, our soule, and our daily life.
there are two types of attacks form the devil
+ left hand- a noticable attack, one which is easy to identify
+ right hand- an attack which is not noticable, one that makes something bad seem good
Hope this helps
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About marrying from another religion, I just heard a really good thing today and that is If u give ur Christianity for love to someone of another faith then u weren't worthy of being a Christian at all.
Yeah Love people but don't deny God for them. They don't last...God does forever. :)
thats very good. i like that, the joy we get from earthly pleasures will die with the world. but the joy we get from god lasts forever
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i dont think its bout wrong and right; its bout practical problems. Some may get baptized and never enter church anymore, there's gonna be trouble in raising kids...which denomination will the follow?? will the celebrate xmas twice a year? After the romantic feelings are over there will be practical problems, if people can get them straight, then there's no problem i think.
so true- wise words hos erof
marriage is one of the sacraments so its sacred. wat exactly is marriage?? its where 2 pepole become one and help each other meet their final destionation- heaven. how can u do that wen some1 isnt the same religion?? its jus not right.
an u say, they can get baptised- but its not so simple. its actualli a complex matter.
think before u make such a decision and check with ur confession father
mazza
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well i'm not really old, but i know that u never know who god has planned for u. maybe the person u like isn't going to be the one god has planned, my advice, stay open to wat god has in store for you.
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hey everyone,
well i think this is a great topic and we needed something to talk about that was interesting like this so after reading all these posts one in particular stood out which was the one i have quoted above because we had a lesson similar to this but it was not about marriage so we talked about marriage or keeping your chastity and then so one of the servants said exactly the same as you but then i have a question for everyone(. i wont be looking for a wife anytime soon though im only 15) If god is going to make sure whether im married or not (because the wrong choice may change the course of gods plan and be bad for my salvation)
so how do i know whether i should take the initiative and go meet people( i hate to put it this way) but kinda look for a wife i mean everyone says like go to church and do school and then eventually do work and continue to go to church and god will take care of marriage but so shouldnt i still exert some sort of effort and then even if i do then what if i exert too much and find someone but god didnt want me to?
what do you think of this
[coptic]agapy[/coptic],
chris
this was my point to ask that question!and it was great
just stay open
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An orthodox who wants to marry somone else has two options:
1) Convert to that somone else's religion
2) That somone else converts to yours (orthodoxy)
Option 1 means that you will NOT get married in an orthodox church and you want to leave God who is your Ultimate love to somone else. Jesus said "He who loves a father, mother, sister, brother, wife, husband, or children more than Me, does not deserve Me." So that is wrong.
Now option two is tricky. Both the church and you need to know for sure that that somone else is converting to orthodoxy based on love for Christ and his/her desire to know God. Not merely a step to get closer to you. If he/she is converting just so that he/she can get married to you, then you should be worried. If he/she left something so important to them (thier religion) for you, then they might leave you for something more important to them later. In other words you would question thier faithfullness. Also the fact that they might convert but not really change to orthodoxy in which case that would cause major problems later when you are married and they want to go back to thier old faith or bring the kids up torn between two doctorines.
Saint Paul said that you should not be under burden with somone who is not of your faith. So the trick here is to make sure that the person converting because he/she believes not so that you are happy and would get married.
Just my 2 cents.
2) That somone else converts to yours (orthodoxy)
that was a good point!
i had a complaining about the 2 optoin when you change you religion before marriage and you married it is sin because they say that you changed your religion because you love him/her not because you love god!!
pray for me!