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Why is dancing wrong?
hi, i was wondering why dancing and all kinds of dancing is bad? i know the story about John the Baptist but i still dont understand how all kinds of dancing is bad? help plz ;D
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Mark 6:14-29
14 Now King Herod heard of Him, for His name had become well known. And he said, "John the Baptist is risen from the dead, and therefore these powers are at work in him."
15Others said, "It is Elijah."
And others said, "It is the Prophet, or[3] like one of the prophets."
16But when Herod heard, he said, "This is John, whom I beheaded; he has been raised from the dead!" 17For Herod himself had sent and laid hold of John, and bound him in prison for the sake of Herodias, his brother Philip's wife; for he had married her. 18Because John had said to Herod, "It is not lawful for you to have your brother's wife."
19Therefore Herodias held it against him and wanted to kill him, but she could not; 20for Herod feared John, knowing that he was a just and holy man, and he protected him. And when he heard him, he did many things, and heard him gladly.
21Then an opportune day came when Herod on his birthday gave a feast for his nobles, the high officers, and the chief men of Galilee. 22And when Herodias' daughter herself came in and danced, and pleased Herod and those who sat with him, the king said to the girl, "Ask me whatever you want, and I will give it to you." 23He also swore to her, "Whatever you ask me, I will give you, up to half my kingdom."
24So she went out and said to her mother, "What shall I ask?"
And she said, "The head of John the Baptist!"
25Immediately she came in with haste to the king and asked, saying, "I want you to give me at once the head of John the Baptist on a platter."
26And the king was exceedingly sorry; yet, because of the oaths and because of those who sat with him, he did not want to refuse her. 27Immediately the king sent an executioner and commanded his head to be brought. And he went and beheaded him in prison, 28brought his head on a platter, and gave it to the girl; and the girl gave it to her mother. 29When his disciples heard of it, they came and took away his corpse and laid it in a tomb.
thanks
mary
- Chris
Don't forget now, the dancing back then was more of like walking around and raising your arms up and down... not exactly proportional/similar to the slow dancing and the arms on the neck and hips that we see today...
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sorry, I'm experimenting again and I'm taking jesus servant's advice on trying to use proper grammer
Pray for me,
SMS
Dancing, although a girl will dance with a girl, and a guy with a guy, and it is innocent, you have to think of your brothers and sisters. For example, if 2 girls are dancing close to eachother and moving there hips, don't you think that some guys will be turned on, and therefore and lustful thoughts? Of course, and now you have caused your brother to stumble. Same goes for 2 guys, you can cause your sister to stumble. Dancing is an act of joy but most of the time it turns into an act of pleasure, whether you realize it or not.
Steve
PS-Paulh, I thought you would now the answer to this by now ;D
But I'd just like to add on one more thing... even if you go to a party where there's only girls, or only guys, and they're dancing with each other (my point is that the opposite sex won't but turned on, because they're not there), what's the point of dancing?
When I throw a party, I either make it an all girls pool party, and if I'd like to invite guys too, we go out and play basketball or volleyball or soccer or football or walk around and talk or just put in a movie and eat... it's just as fun! (maybe even funner because then even people who don't like to dance, get in on it and everyone enjoys themselves)
just an idea...
The issue is not dancing because some dancing is non-sexual and okay. The problem is with most modern dancing they use like exadurated sexual movements and I hope you all know what I mean!
It is a danger because when you dance you drop your guard because of the emotional attachment, desire and energy that can happen in a club and even if you could restrain yourself from going and doing the final act its not a good way to treat the same body that we eat communion with.
In slow dancing, I guess its something which is supposed to be intimate so I guess its probably not right to do it with just anyone...
Oh and most imortantly son't do it cos [glow=red,2,300]SMS[/glow] says so....
God bless,
CS
I am sorry to say, but all of us that say dancing is ok, we're just fooling ourselves and others.
Dancing, although a girl will dance with a girl, and a guy with a guy, and it is innocent, you have to think of your brothers and sisters. For example, if 2 girls are dancing close to eachother and moving there hips, don't you think that some guys will be turned on, and therefore and lustful thoughts? Of course, and now you have caused your brother to stumble. Same goes for 2 guys, you can cause your sister to stumble. Dancing is an act of joy but most of the time it turns into an act of pleasure, whether you realize it or not.
Steve
PS-Paulh, I thought you would now the answer to this by now ;D
You are the man! high five for you! ;D
Oh and most imortantly son't do it cos [glow=red,2,300]SMS[/glow] says so....
God bless,
CS
umm... either I'm incredibly slow today that I don't get that, or it's a joke... I can't tell sometimes... :-\ :)
I got it... ;) lol
we had a father come and talk to us a couple of months ago(Father Antonoius from Arch Angel Michiel And St Bishoy Sydney)
anyway he brought that subject up he said some dancing is okay like say community or cultural dancing is fine like what the greeks have in a circle whatever but in our culture (gypo's) we have belly dancing which isnt proper for children of God. As the others said its to attract which is a sin, as Steve said we shouldnt be a stumbling block for others because that also is a sin and dont forget our body is a temple of God.
like if your dancing and praising God not exposing or showing off thats fine as some1 said David
God bless
pray 4 me
Nardin
personally, i don't find big bellied belly dancers attractive... but people's tastes differ ;D
I suppose they do, since I "lust" for wobbly beer bellies on women. Quite soothing to look at, kinda like lava lamps.
God bless!
ur gonna have to read between the lines buddy... thats sorta what the whole bible is about
by the way, i agree with Nardin's post from Father Antonios about how some types of dancing is wrong. i understand that belly dancing is wrong because your pretty much putting somebody in a temptation, and there are many other types of dancing thats wrong because they while people are dancing they try to make themselves look like their doing something else (if you know what i mean), but what about just the regular dancing where your not exposing any part of your body, and your not symbolizing any sexual acts by your movements...is that also considered wrong?
you know, the bible may be the greatest book ever written! but that doesnt mean ur gonna find things stated bluntly
ur gonna have to read between the lines buddy... thats sorta what the whole bible is about
But even when "reading between the lines", there still has to be a basis for claiming that something is or is not a sin. Otherwise, you run the risk of adding to the Bible. In the case of Herod's daughter, it seems to me the sin that is at issue is not the dancing, but the fact that a good man was unjustly executed.
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SMS is right. the bible implies a lot of things that it doesn't talk about straight out.....but you sort of understand what He's talking about when you open up your mind to it and just let The Word flow into you..
by the way, i agree with Nardin's post from Father Antonios about how some types of dancing is wrong. i understand that belly dancing is wrong because your pretty much putting somebody in a temptation, and there are many other types of dancing thats wrong because they while people are dancing they try to make themselves look like their doing something else (if you know what i mean), but what about just the regular dancing where your not exposing any part of your body, and your not symbolizing any sexual acts by your movements...is that also considered wrong?
It all comes down to a question of intent. What is it that the dancer is trying to express in his/her dance? If it's merely a form of celebration, then I don't see the problem. But if the person is dancing with the intent of inciting lust, then it's not good. And it won't matter even if the dancer wears a full burqa.
God bless!
I am not saying that all kinds of dancing is wrong even though i read an article (wrote by a priest) saying that that it is
if i can find it again i will post it up
But see NC the reason John was executed was because of Herodias' daughter dancing i know that you see the dancing as not the sin here but think of this what if she had never danced then John wouldn't have died.
I am not saying that all kinds of dancing is wrong even though i read an article (wrote by a priest) saying that that it is
if i can find it again i will post it up
Herod was a corrupt man, so the capacity for this level of injustice had already in his heart. That's why I believe that the dancing, even if it's one of the points of the story, is at best a very peripheral one. Of course, I'm not excusing whatever Herod's daughter did, especially if her dance was tantamount to a striptease.
God bless!
*desires* key word...
God bless!
but i have a question for u: just because something is not mentioned in the bible and is not clearly said... does that make it right?
if not... what makes it wrong?