I am concerend about our churches stand on using the drug viagra? i'm not even sure why people really use it. is it solely for medical purposes or to satisfy a certain.
I dont understand the question.. if you were gonna talk about viagra.. u might just talk about the whole class of ED Drugs (including cialis & Levitra)... these drugs are "suppose" to be used to treat men w/ Erectile dysfunction, some ppl just use it for fun.. but in my opinion.. if you have actually ED there shouldnt be anythign wrong w/ that.. but the ppl that are using it fun.. thats a whole other story.
[quote author=KrazyLion link=topic=7439.msg98254#msg98254 date=1229120091] God said be fruitful and multiply.... The people on that drug are merely trying to increase the rate at which they obey the Word of God....
God said that THROUGH HIS GIFT to humanity of bring children. but people who use these drugs UNDERMINE God's creation, being themselves' and HIS own creating, and also HIS WILL.
No but being serious and all...when a man has a dysfunction it's simply a medicin. And yes, some people will use it for the wrong purpose. But that's the same as morphine being used to take away pain from someone after a surgery, or using it as a drug to feel "high". So, viagra isn't wrong in itself, if used for the right purpose, just like everything else in life!
[quote author=minagir link=topic=7439.msg98255#msg98255 date=1229121209] [quote author=KrazyLion link=topic=7439.msg98254#msg98254 date=1229120091] God said be fruitful and multiply.... The people on that drug are merely trying to increase the rate at which they obey the Word of God....
God said that THROUGH HIS GIFT to humanity of bring children. but people who use these drugs UNDERMINE God's creation, being themselves' and HIS own creating, and also HIS WILL.
Sorry Mina, I'm not really following your logic here
you mean to say that when someone is sick (ie God allowed him to be sick) and he gets treated by a medicine then he's undermining God's will???
Ya3ni if a woman masalan can't have children, in your opinion, she shouldn't try getting treatment so that she can get pregnant???
I think this way of thinking is against church doctrine, because God gave us brains and we're supposed to use them
[quote author=Hos Erof link=topic=7439.msg98256#msg98256 date=1229125481] ok this is just hilarious ;D
No but being serious and all...when a man has a dysfunction it's simply a medicin. And yes, some people will use it for the wrong purpose. But that's the same as morphine being used to take away pain from someone after a surgery, or using it as a drug to feel "high". So, viagra isn't wrong in itself, if used for the right purpose, just like everything else in life!
I have to agree with Hos Erof here.The fact that we are talking about medicine being a sin is hilarious. It is almost like saying that if there is something wrong with you, you shouldnt do anything. [quote author=minagir link=topic=7439.msg98255#msg98255 date=1229121209] [quote author=KrazyLion link=topic=7439.msg98254#msg98254 date=1229120091] God said be fruitful and multiply.... The people on that drug are merely trying to increase the rate at which they obey the Word of God....
God said that THROUGH HIS GIFT to humanity of bring children. but people who use these drugs UNDERMINE God's creation, being themselves' and HIS own creating, and also HIS WILL.
In that case all medications will be sin, as we are undermining God's will. But one also has to consider that God dos not make us sick, but it was the fall of Adam that makes us sick.
Well i guess i need to wait for Hoserof's statement. the statement of "becoming fruitful" was very general. to consider, you just need to do ANYTHING to become fruitful. so way statement was to answer that general statement[. and i was referring to the wrong use of these drugs. that's it.
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God said be fruitful and multiply.... The people on that drug are merely trying to increase the rate at which they obey the Word of God....
God said that THROUGH HIS GIFT to humanity of bring children. but people who use these drugs UNDERMINE God's creation, being themselves' and HIS own creating, and also HIS WILL.
No but being serious and all...when a man has a dysfunction it's simply a medicin. And yes, some people will use it for the wrong purpose. But that's the same as morphine being used to take away pain from someone after a surgery, or using it as a drug to feel "high". So, viagra isn't wrong in itself, if used for the right purpose, just like everything else in life!
[quote author=KrazyLion link=topic=7439.msg98254#msg98254 date=1229120091]
God said be fruitful and multiply.... The people on that drug are merely trying to increase the rate at which they obey the Word of God....
God said that THROUGH HIS GIFT to humanity of bring children. but people who use these drugs UNDERMINE God's creation, being themselves' and HIS own creating, and also HIS WILL.
Sorry Mina, I'm not really following your logic here
you mean to say that when someone is sick (ie God allowed him to be sick) and he gets treated by a medicine then he's undermining God's will???
Ya3ni if a woman masalan can't have children, in your opinion, she shouldn't try getting treatment so that she can get pregnant???
I think this way of thinking is against church doctrine, because God gave us brains and we're supposed to use them
God bless you
Please pray for me
ok this is just hilarious ;D
No but being serious and all...when a man has a dysfunction it's simply a medicin. And yes, some people will use it for the wrong purpose. But that's the same as morphine being used to take away pain from someone after a surgery, or using it as a drug to feel "high". So, viagra isn't wrong in itself, if used for the right purpose, just like everything else in life!
I have to agree with Hos Erof here.The fact that we are talking about medicine being a sin is hilarious. It is almost like saying that if there is something wrong with you, you shouldnt do anything.
[quote author=minagir link=topic=7439.msg98255#msg98255 date=1229121209]
[quote author=KrazyLion link=topic=7439.msg98254#msg98254 date=1229120091]
God said be fruitful and multiply.... The people on that drug are merely trying to increase the rate at which they obey the Word of God....
God said that THROUGH HIS GIFT to humanity of bring children. but people who use these drugs UNDERMINE God's creation, being themselves' and HIS own creating, and also HIS WILL.
In that case all medications will be sin, as we are undermining God's will. But one also has to consider that God dos not make us sick, but it was the fall of Adam that makes us sick.
the statement of "becoming fruitful" was very general. to consider, you just need to do ANYTHING to become fruitful. so way statement was to answer that general statement[. and i was referring to the wrong use of these drugs. that's it.
now any other comments will be completely useless