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Serbian Orthodox
Hey everyone,
Is the Serbian Orthodox Church Oriental or Eastern Orthodox?? I always thought it was Oriental but now it seems they are Eastern. Anybody know for sure?? I kind of need to know cuz someone is Serbian Orthodox and they want to come and attend our church and take communion but I'm not sure if they are oriental or not.
PK
Is the Serbian Orthodox Church Oriental or Eastern Orthodox?? I always thought it was Oriental but now it seems they are Eastern. Anybody know for sure?? I kind of need to know cuz someone is Serbian Orthodox and they want to come and attend our church and take communion but I'm not sure if they are oriental or not.
PK
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Oriental are as follows:
Coptic
Syrian
Armenian
Indian
Ethiopian
I believe thats all, let me know if I missed any.
I'm 99.9% sure they are eastern.
Oriental are as follows:
Coptic
Syrian
Armenian
Indian
Ethiopian
I believe thats all, let me know if I missed any.
I agree.
not to forget however that the
British Orthodox Church and the French Orthodox Church are related to the Coptic Orthodox Church, thus making them Oriental Churches as well.
yup
not to forget however that the
British Orthodox Church and the French Orthodox Church are related to the Coptic Orthodox Church, thus making them Oriental Churches as well.
They Are under the Coptic Orthodox Section, we are 5 sister Churches, they are under coptic orthodox, if they weren't we would be 7 sister churches.
The news is here:
www.copticpope.org/downloads/eng_keraza/engkeraza19-03-2004.pdf
The protocol is here:
http://www.lacopts.org/index.php?/site/entry/92/
Also HH Pope Shenouda consecrating HH Patriarch Antonios (Video)
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8117935108417498837&q=abune+antonios&hl=en
The video is of poor quality, forgive me for that!
Thx Mingar.Here is the protocol that was signed between the Coptic and Eritrean Tewahdo church.It is a mother and daughter(not sister) church.
The news is here:
www.copticpope.org/downloads/eng_keraza/engkeraza19-03-2004.pdf
The protocol is here:
http://www.lacopts.org/index.php?/site/entry/92/
Also HH Pope Shenouda consecrating HH Patriarch Antonios (Video)
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8117935108417498837&q=abune+antonios&hl=en
The video is of poor quality, forgive me for that!
wow....thanks for the video.
...aren't we all basically the same? (eastern and orientall>??)
well i guess we discovered that we are. but no offical union yet. so technicly, nothing changed
The Serbian Orthodox Church is definitely Eastern Orthodox. I have been to Serbian Orthodox liturgies a few times, and they're pretty cool. But because I am Coptic, I was unable to partake of Holy Communion. Has anyone had any thoughts about opening up dialogue between Oriental and Eastern Orthodox youth in a more formalised way? Obviously we would need the respective bishops' apporval...
Forgive me, my Brethren.
You mentioned you wanted to open up dialogue with Eastern Orthodox young adults: www.orthodoxcircle.com. Another good one to check out (although they are just getting started... so bear with them) is www.issacharnetwork.org. Check them out, and let me know what you think.
Pray for me, my dear Brothers and Sisters.
Serbian Orthodox Church belongs to the family eastern Orthodox Churches.
We are similar most more Romanian orthodox Church and Russian orthodox Church.
Have little resemblance with Armenian (oriental) orthodox Churche.
This we are:
SPC
:-*
destroyed 150 churchs (!!!) Serbian Orthodox Church,
almost all the churches in our southern province.
Antichrists want to destroy the Serbian people and Serbian church,
and in fact helping them all the world powers.
:( Our Church was crucified Church!
Very violent video:
_______________________________
But we are still looking forward,
where there is suffering and cross,
here is hidden resurrection.
:)
Rejoice because Christ government,
all will be with us well,
the Orthodox with Christ will reign.
In the background are images of our ecumenical saints and our local Serbian saints:
Hymn Serbs Saints:
:-* !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Big greetings from Serbia!
In the recent period I became more interested in what Oriental Churches believe indeed. And I realized that your faith is almost similar to our. I looking forward to hear a good news on the progression our unity dialogue! I'am more dedicated to dialogue with Oriental Churches rather than with Roman Catholic and other Western churches since we have so much in common with you.
Best regards!
Ivan -<Dyonisios>(for my brother "Serb") :-)
2 points:
1. all the eastern and oriental orthodox had a meeting in 1990 in geneva, switzerland and agreed that we basically believe the same thing. they need to get together again though, and sort out us being allowed to take communion together. one senior clergy member i spoke to said that many bishops are too busy arguing to engage in useful dialogue. this means it's hard for the other bishops and patriarchs to sort it out. please pray for them that they may have lots of wisdom and humility to 'consider others better than yourself' and to love one another as our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ loved us.
when you look at the root causes of arguments between Christians, unfortunately they are often due to pride and the love of power, not due to genuine concern over having the correct doctrine.
2. please pray for the eritrean orthodox church, and also the other Christians in eritrea as they are suffering a lot right now under a socialist military government who attack all religions (Christians, Muslims, Animists) and force the population to join the army to fight oppresive wars against neighbouring countries. young men who refuse to join the army are treated very badly and there is very little freedom there. many Christians have fled and some even have walked hundreds of miles to sudan or other countries to escape. Christian meetings are limited and controlled and they are keeping the patriarch of the orthodox church, abouna antonius, under house arrest and preventing him from carrying out his duties. the eritreans (orthodox and protestant) who have managed to escape to the uk and visit my church (coptic) are lovely, godly people whose faith under immense suffering is very humbling. please pray for them and for their friends and brothers left behind who are suffering.
may God help us to worship him in all humility and in spirit and truth
pray for my weakness
Hi brothers and sisters :)
2 points:
1. all the eastern and oriental orthodox had a meeting in 1990 in geneva, switzerland and agreed that we basically believe the same thing. they need to get together again though, and sort out us being allowed to take communion together. one senior clergy member i spoke to said that many bishops are too busy arguing to engage in useful dialogue. this means it's hard for the other bishops and patriarchs to sort it out. please pray for them that they may have lots of wisdom and humility to 'consider others better than yourself' and to love one another as our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ loved us.
when you look at the root causes of arguments between Christians, unfortunately they are often due to pride and the love of power, not due to genuine concern over having the correct doctrine.
I hope that our Lord and Saviour Isus Hristos (Jesus Christ) will lead us toward our real unity in faith and true.
I think that it is very important that we should know each other better in order to avoid potentional problems that may occure if unity really come. Some non-informed group from both side may be suspicious. So it is necesary that interested Christians from both sides to know clearly and unquivocaly what is our common confession of the Faith and to know that there is nothing heretical.
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2. please pray for the eritrean orthodox church, and also the other Christians in eritrea as they are suffering a lot right now under a socialist military government who attack all religions (Christians, Muslims, Animists) and force the population to join the army to fight oppresive wars against neighbouring countries. young men who refuse to join the army are treated very badly and there is very little freedom there. many Christians have fled and some even have walked hundreds of miles to sudan or other countries to escape. Christian meetings are limited and controlled and they are keeping the patriarch of the orthodox church, abouna antonius, under house arrest and preventing him from carrying out his duties. the eritreans (orthodox and protestant) who have managed to escape to the uk and visit my church (coptic) are lovely, godly people whose faith under immense suffering is very humbling. please pray for them and for their friends and brothers left behind who are suffering.
may God help us to worship him in all humility and in spirit and truth
pray for my weakness
I read this for a first time. I hope that Christ Pantocrator will give a pious goverment to the suffering Christians of Eritrea. We, Orthodox in Serbia, have suffered a lot under communist regime. The caused 3 schismes in Serbian Orthodox Church. One is surpassed, but the other two (schism with Chursch in Macedonia and with (I cannot name them like a Church) in Montenegro.
Nowadays, Serbs and Serbian Orthodox Church are martyrs in our southern Province Kosovo and Metohia. Since 1999, muslim Albanians destroyed more than 150 Orthodox churches from Medieval period, banished more than 250,000 Serbs from Kosovo and Metohia, and killed several thousands.
Look at this example of savageness. Look how they fight against the Holy Cross. This is martyr St.Elia's Church in the city of Podujevo, destroyed in 2004.
May God be with you my Christian friends!
Greetings from Serbia!
Ivan
Thank you for sharing.
God bless you.
Христос се роди! (this is our Christmass greeting)
In Serbian Orthodox Church, we also celebrate Christmas in accordance wtih Juliane calendar. But we do celebrate Christmass 3 days, starting 7 January.
Prayers and blessings for our unity in Christ!
Tasbeha means 'Praise' :)
PPFM
MArry Christmass to you, too! (with more than two weeks of lateness) :-)
Our celebration of Christmass lasts 3 days as well as for Eastern and Holy Trinity day (Pentecosti)
If someone is intrested, I have recorded Divine Liturgy from chram (temple) of Sv. Sava in Beograd. It is christmas midnight liturgy. There were used greek, old church slavic, serbian and....LATIN languages. Unfortunatelly those files are in strange formt IVR and I can't transforme into avi or mpeg :(
18 of february I'm gonna Belgrad and If God wills, I'll go to Divine liturgy even I'm catholic :)
I love Divna Ljubojević! Type her name to youtube or google and download her songs! Angel voice!
http://www.chomikuj.pl/xpictianoc/Chora*c5*82+-+Divna+Ljubojevi*c4*87 here you can listen her songs without downloading, just click play.
Slava Isusu Hristu!
We are looking forward to see the link... I am especally interested how ORthodox liturgy sounds in Latin :) Latin language is so beatiful to listen...
p.s. Javljaj kad okacis fajl i salji link :-)
надам се да ће се Вам свиђати :)
међу 19 а 24 фебруара бићу у Београду
As I mentioned the files format is very strange - ivr - internet video recording. I think you need real player to be able to play it.
The latin part is just few words "sum sum corda" (Горје имјеим сердца).
Ivan if you like latin I have a lot of gregorian chants :)
greetings