Well i know Sarkis wrote aripsaleen lol. A lot of them are straight psalms from the Bible (148, 149, 150 in second and 4th hoos). The third hoos is straight from the OT apocrypha - the story about the three young men and the song they sung while in the fire. And the first Hoos is also straight from the Bible - the one Moses and his people sung when they came out of the Red Sea. As for the lobshes and theotokias - no idea.
the psalies: we think that they were mostly written by monks of the deserts across egypt.....with the consideration of some ones that were written by different cantors (more specifcly the kiahk ones).
[quote author=geomike link=topic=9606.msg118386#msg118386 date=1282173681] i was taught that it was Saint Athanasius who wrote most of the Theotokias in response to Arius.
that is a teaching.....i've read it before. actually, i think that is what Abu-elbarakat says in his rites encyclopedia
[quote author=kirollos3 link=topic=9606.msg118395#msg118395 date=1282182800] i just think they might started the tasbeha ... so wait what about the book of prayer .. who made it .
Psalmody is differnt than the book of hours. I think in the jewish tradition there are similar rites. I think the whole vespers prayer we do the night before liturgy is taken from the same tradition.
[quote author=minagir link=topic=9606.msg118300#msg118300 date=1282084133] there are some info in the end of this page: http://cof.rutgers.edu/saintmary.php
Great website Mina
This is what is on there website under Theotokias:
They were writings of Pope Cyril I defending the Theotokos and latter on they were constructed by a monk from the monastery of St. Makari to be in the form we have now. In the early Church they were only chanted in the monasteries but then Pope Benjamin I (590-661), the 38th pope ordered the churches to use them in their prayers.
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A lot of them are straight psalms from the Bible (148, 149, 150 in second and 4th hoos). The third hoos is straight from the OT apocrypha - the story about the three young men and the song they sung while in the fire. And the first Hoos is also straight from the Bible - the one Moses and his people sung when they came out of the Red Sea.
As for the lobshes and theotokias - no idea.
the psalies: we think that they were mostly written by monks of the deserts across egypt.....with the consideration of some ones that were written by different cantors (more specifcly the kiahk ones).
what about the theotokias?
visit the LINK!!!
i was taught that it was Saint Athanasius who wrote most of the Theotokias in response to Arius.
that is a teaching.....i've read it before. actually, i think that is what Abu-elbarakat says in his rites encyclopedia
wait the apostles did not have anything to do with this ???
No...not really. the term "theotokos" was used years after the apostles.
so wait what about the book of prayer .. who made it .
i just think they might started the tasbeha ...
so wait what about the book of prayer .. who made it .
Psalmody is differnt than the book of hours. I think in the jewish tradition there are similar rites. I think the whole vespers prayer we do the night before liturgy is taken from the same tradition.
there are some info in the end of this page: http://cof.rutgers.edu/saintmary.php
Great website Mina
This is what is on there website under Theotokias: