i have a situation on the topic of abortion
i think it's among the most frequently asked questions by young people like me.
Actually i believe its a sin and our Church also teaches us the same!
but what if someone who thinks more about the problem than the teachings of the church, came to us or me- a Christian and ask me to help him in the abortion process? what if he propose the question in a way that seems very persuasive? like saying the life of his girl friend is in danger and that she may die if she is left to give birth? what if he asks you to give him the money for the abortion? even worse, solely depends on u? what if no one even her families do not know anything about the case?
please these all things happen to me right now.
so please give me your advise.i really need help.
let God help us all!
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What do you mean "even worse, solely depends on you?" ?
And the mother's life at risk argument (thought entirely medically sound) is very, very often misused. Most abortions in the UK are conducted under this rule, and it means only that the mother does not want the baby and would rather it disappeared.
If there is a real case where the mother's life is in immediate risk then the doctors would be all over the situation. It would be something like an ectopic pregnancy.
In what way is this person's life in danger? Is the person a member of any Church? I do not believe there are any circumstances in which a young Orthodox person should be involved in the facilitation of an abortion. It is very grave. It is murder. It will affect many lives in a negative way.
You must urge this person to seek the advice of responsible adults, it is not fair that you bear this burden alone. There is much that can be done to help a young person who falls pregnant, and it is much less spiritually damaging to have sinned in this way, than to compound the situation by taking the life of another person.
May the Lord have mercy. But abortion is never the answer.
Father Peter
http://suscopts.org/q&a/index.php?qid=104&catid=414
Thanks for the correction :)
and one thing i live in a 'developing' country and the source of money the medical options the facilities are not as like the 'developed' countries so............
Our church teaches that abortion isn't wrong if two situations arise: if the mother's life is at stake or if the mother was raped.
What do you mean "even worse, solely depends on you?" ?
who said the Church allows it in the case of rape?! the Church DOESN'T
But a man cannot become pregnant. What is the condition of his girlfriend? How is her life in danger?
forgive me for my poor explanation.
my friend is the one who ask me for help because his girlfriend got pregnant he told me that she is feeling sick, dizzy and sometimes fainted he said that the baby is almost about 4 month old and 'as he said' the doctors said the mothers life is in danger. so for this reason he needs money thus he wants to borrow from some financial institution by proposing a [fake] business plan and then using the money for the abortion. he just asked me to be his collateral! i think i explain it all, sorry again for my poor language and poor explanation. and thank you for your suggestions and time for reading it.
God bless!
I believe the best answer is to re-read your own last post to yourself five times very slowly and listen to each word. Your answer is in your trepidation that you write.
I think that ilovesaintmark has drawn attention clearly to the growing list of moral and spiritual problems associated with this proposed course of action. You should not allow yourself to be involved beyond care and prayer.
Are these Coptic Orthodox people who have this situation?
God bless you and preserve you
Father Peter
do you have a sister or female friend who is a Christian and can talk to his girlfriend?
Maybe she needs other medical treatment that you could help with, not abortion.
there is no discussion for this like Father Peter said its a murder!
but what bothers me is discerning the two words; the one type is that giving help to every question that we are asked of; verses: epistle of john, tells us that a person who does nothing while his neighbor is in need of help does not goes in the line of love, and our Lord on the sermon on the mount said that our left hand should not see while the other gives and saint Issiah saw this in a way that we don't have to ask questions on our giving or pity...
And the other side is not to participate in the sinful matters we could mention many verses for this
now am in the middle of this two words needing a spiritual opinion
let God bless us all
If someone asked you to help them rape someone would you still be wondering whether or not to help?
If someone asked you to help rob a bank would you be wondering if the Gospel requires you to help?
It is NEVER ever proper to sin or to assist others in sinning. Indeed to help someone sin shows that we do not care about them at all, and are willing to see them face the judgement of God.
I think you already know the answer to this question. Abortion leads to excommunication. It is murder. To help someone procure an abortion is a grave sin. You will help best by doing all you can to persuade your friend not to follow this course.
Father Peter
Pope Shenouda was asked by someone if he should help someone to cheat on a test, because of the very verse you mentioned.
His response was that you can't take one verse and leave the other. He told him that in no way can he do this. Now imagine if this is the response to cheating on a test, what would be the response for abortion which is murder.
Please pray for me and God bless.
Thanks all for taking the time to reply.
Please pray for me.