[quote author=kmeka001 link=topic=11441.msg138230#msg138230 date=1305798814] [quote author=ilovesaintmark link=topic=11441.msg138201#msg138201 date=1305755785] CIA looks younger than in the Cathedral.
That's because he dyes his hair.
This is a nice recording. Is there a video of this available? And speaking of the recording, did CIA cry when he was chanting the first quartet of "Kata Nikhoros?" His voice cracked a few times as if he was crying. I ask this because when he was reciting the fourth gospel on Palm Sunday broke the same way and he let Anton finish it. Does anyone who attended with him notice him crying? If he was, does anyone know why?
I admit, the last question is kind of silly to ask but it would be cool to know what he was crying about if he was really crying. lol
He cried on Sunday at Saint Mary East Brunswick as he was saying the prayer for the departed for Egypt which was understandable. at the end of the liturgy after our father, he said "let's say our father again for egypt" and cried a little after that.
[quote author=Michael Boutros link=topic=11441.msg138258#msg138258 date=1305832473] Thanks so much Mina, I second the request for a video though!
I talked to the person who recorded the liturgy and they said they will try to get it online by Sunday. I will post the link once up.
[quote author=copticuser20 link=topic=11441.msg138263#msg138263 date=1305835173] [quote author=kmeka001 link=topic=11441.msg138230#msg138230 date=1305798814] [quote author=ilovesaintmark link=topic=11441.msg138201#msg138201 date=1305755785] CIA looks younger than in the Cathedral.
That's because he dyes his hair.
This is a nice recording. Is there a video of this available? And speaking of the recording, did CIA cry when he was chanting the first quartet of "Kata Nikhoros?" His voice cracked a few times as if he was crying. I ask this because when he was reciting the fourth gospel on Palm Sunday broke the same way and he let Anton finish it. Does anyone who attended with him notice him crying? If he was, does anyone know why?
I admit, the last question is kind of silly to ask but it would be cool to know what he was crying about if he was really crying. lol
He cried on Sunday at Saint Mary East Brunswick as he was saying the prayer for the departed for Egypt which was understandable. at the end of the liturgy after our father, he said "let's say our father again for egypt" and cried a little after that.
[quote author=Michael Boutros link=topic=11441.msg138258#msg138258 date=1305832473] Thanks so much Mina, I second the request for a video though!
I talked to the person who recorded the liturgy and they said they will try to get it online by Sunday. I will post the link once up.
How did he pray the prayer for the departed? Isn't that a priest part?
[quote author=kmeka001 link=topic=11441.msg138290#msg138290 date=1305861736] [quote author=copticuser20 link=topic=11441.msg138263#msg138263 date=1305835173] [quote author=kmeka001 link=topic=11441.msg138230#msg138230 date=1305798814] [quote author=ilovesaintmark link=topic=11441.msg138201#msg138201 date=1305755785] CIA looks younger than in the Cathedral.
That's because he dyes his hair.
This is a nice recording. Is there a video of this available? And speaking of the recording, did CIA cry when he was chanting the first quartet of "Kata Nikhoros?" His voice cracked a few times as if he was crying. I ask this because when he was reciting the fourth gospel on Palm Sunday broke the same way and he let Anton finish it. Does anyone who attended with him notice him crying? If he was, does anyone know why?
I admit, the last question is kind of silly to ask but it would be cool to know what he was crying about if he was really crying. lol
He cried on Sunday at Saint Mary East Brunswick as he was saying the prayer for the departed for Egypt which was understandable. at the end of the liturgy after our father, he said "let's say our father again for egypt" and cried a little after that.
[quote author=Michael Boutros link=topic=11441.msg138258#msg138258 date=1305832473] Thanks so much Mina, I second the request for a video though!
I talked to the person who recorded the liturgy and they said they will try to get it online by Sunday. I will post the link once up.
How did he pray the prayer for the departed? Isn't that a priest part?
Comments; video clip from St. George & St. Shenouda in Jersey City:
1. Couldn't make out from the visual it was CIA 2. Sound quality was poor
3. shocking: a) two bishops entered and the deacons did not process them in by greeting b) the priest, Fr. David, was carrying the bags for the bishops rather than the deacons c) Bp. David was taking his coat off at the altar because there was no deacon to have taken his coat at the door.
Deacons are servants and janitors. They carry the bags, take the coats, greet at the door, summon the priest to tell him that the bishop has arrived, and get the cross for the procession.
I don't know if CIA left or not but can anyone ask him why he records "Apikhristos analempsis" while Deacon Albair records it as "Xristos?" What is his reasoning behind it? Thanks.
[quote author=kmeka001 link=topic=11441.msg138494#msg138494 date=1306285754] I don't know if CIA left or not but can anyone ask him why he records "Apikhristos analempsis" while Deacon Albair records it as "Xristos?" What is his reasoning behind it? Thanks.
Not only Albair but also the other recordings on this site are different. Cantor Farag says "Pikhristos" but not "a", Cantor Gad says "Khristos," and HCIS says "Khristos." Confusing!
[quote author=Michael Boutros link=topic=11441.msg138495#msg138495 date=1306286313] [quote author=kmeka001 link=topic=11441.msg138494#msg138494 date=1306285754] I don't know if CIA left or not but can anyone ask him why he records "Apikhristos analempsis" while Deacon Albair records it as "Xristos?" What is his reasoning behind it? Thanks.
Not only Albair but also the other recordings on this site are different. Cantor Farag says "Pikhristos" but not "a", Cantor Gad says "Khristos," and HCIS says "Khristos." Confusing!
Thanks for sharing my pain Michael! lol
I think I'm going to go with Deacon Albair because the rest of the words are Greek and the word "Xhristos" is also Greek but "Pikhristos" is Coptic; it won't match the rest of the words. However, in "Pikhristos aftonf," the hymn right after it, it says "Pikhristos...," which is Coptic like the rest of the words of the hymn. This is my logic behind my decision. Does anyone have the reasoning of authoritative figures? Maybe CIA's reasoning?
[quote author=kmeka001 link=topic=11441.msg138496#msg138496 date=1306289198] I think I'm going to go with Deacon Albair because the rest of the words are Greek and the word "Xhristos" is also Greek but "Pikhristos" is Coptic; it won't match the rest of the words. However, in "Pikhristos aftonf," the hymn right after it, it says "Pikhristos...," which is Coptic like the rest of the words of the hymn. This is my logic behind my decision. Does anyone have the reasoning of authoritative figures? Maybe CIA's reasoning?
in albair's book it's a pikhrestos. in anba mettaous rites book, it's a pikhrestos. the change is rewording to make the hymn in the past tense.....even thoo it's greek.
[quote author=minatasgeel link=topic=11441.msg138497#msg138497 date=1306289969] [quote author=kmeka001 link=topic=11441.msg138496#msg138496 date=1306289198] I think I'm going to go with Deacon Albair because the rest of the words are Greek and the word "Xhristos" is also Greek but "Pikhristos" is Coptic; it won't match the rest of the words. However, in "Pikhristos aftonf," the hymn right after it, it says "Pikhristos...," which is Coptic like the rest of the words of the hymn. This is my logic behind my decision. Does anyone have the reasoning of authoritative figures? Maybe CIA's reasoning?
in albair's book it's a pikhrestos. in anba mettaous rites book, it's a pikhrestos. the change is rewording to make the hymn in the past tense.....even thoo it's greek.
If that's the case, then why isn't it "A Pikhristos aftonf" for the Resurrection and the 39 days following it instead of "Pikhristos aftonf?"
[quote author=kmeka001 link=topic=11441.msg138498#msg138498 date=1306290269] [quote author=minatasgeel link=topic=11441.msg138497#msg138497 date=1306289969] [quote author=kmeka001 link=topic=11441.msg138496#msg138496 date=1306289198] I think I'm going to go with Deacon Albair because the rest of the words are Greek and the word "Xhristos" is also Greek but "Pikhristos" is Coptic; it won't match the rest of the words. However, in "Pikhristos aftonf," the hymn right after it, it says "Pikhristos...," which is Coptic like the rest of the words of the hymn. This is my logic behind my decision. Does anyone have the reasoning of authoritative figures? Maybe CIA's reasoning?
in albair's book it's a pikhrestos. in anba mettaous rites book, it's a pikhrestos. the change is rewording to make the hymn in the past tense.....even thoo it's greek.
If that's the case, then why isn't it "A Pikhristos aftonf" for the Resurrection and the 39 days following it instead of "Pikhristos aftonf?"
it have to do with the theological understanding of the Resurrection.
[quote author=minatasgeel link=topic=11441.msg138499#msg138499 date=1306290813] [quote author=kmeka001 link=topic=11441.msg138498#msg138498 date=1306290269] [quote author=minatasgeel link=topic=11441.msg138497#msg138497 date=1306289969] [quote author=kmeka001 link=topic=11441.msg138496#msg138496 date=1306289198] I think I'm going to go with Deacon Albair because the rest of the words are Greek and the word "Xhristos" is also Greek but "Pikhristos" is Coptic; it won't match the rest of the words. However, in "Pikhristos aftonf," the hymn right after it, it says "Pikhristos...," which is Coptic like the rest of the words of the hymn. This is my logic behind my decision. Does anyone have the reasoning of authoritative figures? Maybe CIA's reasoning?
in albair's book it's a pikhrestos. in anba mettaous rites book, it's a pikhrestos. the change is rewording to make the hymn in the past tense.....even thoo it's greek.
If that's the case, then why isn't it "A Pikhristos aftonf" for the Resurrection and the 39 days following it instead of "Pikhristos aftonf?"
it have to do with the theological understanding of the Resurrection.
[quote author=minatasgeel link=topic=11441.msg137974#msg137974 date=1305484189] [quote author=kmeka001 link=topic=11441.msg137961#msg137961 date=1305448827] How long will he be in the US? And will he be going to any other state, specifically California after he is done?
i really really really think that he won't.
Hey minatasgeel, you said that he would never go to California ? The real Ibrahim Ayad came yesterday to St. Antony's Monastery in Yermo, CA.
Comments
Thanks so much Mina, I second the request for a video though!
there was no video for that. i was there.
[quote author=ilovesaintmark link=topic=11441.msg138201#msg138201 date=1305755785]
CIA looks younger than in the Cathedral.
That's because he dyes his hair.
This is a nice recording. Is there a video of this available? And speaking of the recording, did CIA cry when he was chanting the first quartet of "Kata Nikhoros?" His voice cracked a few times as if he was crying. I ask this because when he was reciting the fourth gospel on Palm Sunday broke the same way and he let Anton finish it. Does anyone who attended with him notice him crying? If he was, does anyone know why?
I admit, the last question is kind of silly to ask but it would be cool to know what he was crying about if he was really crying. lol
He cried on Sunday at Saint Mary East Brunswick as he was saying the prayer for the departed for Egypt which was understandable. at the end of the liturgy after our father, he said "let's say our father again for egypt" and cried a little after that.
[quote author=Michael Boutros link=topic=11441.msg138258#msg138258 date=1305832473]
Thanks so much Mina, I second the request for a video though!
I talked to the person who recorded the liturgy and they said they will try to get it online by Sunday. I will post the link once up.
[quote author=kmeka001 link=topic=11441.msg138230#msg138230 date=1305798814]
[quote author=ilovesaintmark link=topic=11441.msg138201#msg138201 date=1305755785]
CIA looks younger than in the Cathedral.
That's because he dyes his hair.
This is a nice recording. Is there a video of this available? And speaking of the recording, did CIA cry when he was chanting the first quartet of "Kata Nikhoros?" His voice cracked a few times as if he was crying. I ask this because when he was reciting the fourth gospel on Palm Sunday broke the same way and he let Anton finish it. Does anyone who attended with him notice him crying? If he was, does anyone know why?
I admit, the last question is kind of silly to ask but it would be cool to know what he was crying about if he was really crying. lol
He cried on Sunday at Saint Mary East Brunswick as he was saying the prayer for the departed for Egypt which was understandable. at the end of the liturgy after our father, he said "let's say our father again for egypt" and cried a little after that.
[quote author=Michael Boutros link=topic=11441.msg138258#msg138258 date=1305832473]
Thanks so much Mina, I second the request for a video though!
I talked to the person who recorded the liturgy and they said they will try to get it online by Sunday. I will post the link once up.
How did he pray the prayer for the departed? Isn't that a priest part?
How did he pray the prayer for the departed? Isn't that a priest part?
he replys with "otlobo"
[quote author=copticuser20 link=topic=11441.msg138263#msg138263 date=1305835173]
[quote author=kmeka001 link=topic=11441.msg138230#msg138230 date=1305798814]
[quote author=ilovesaintmark link=topic=11441.msg138201#msg138201 date=1305755785]
CIA looks younger than in the Cathedral.
That's because he dyes his hair.
This is a nice recording. Is there a video of this available? And speaking of the recording, did CIA cry when he was chanting the first quartet of "Kata Nikhoros?" His voice cracked a few times as if he was crying. I ask this because when he was reciting the fourth gospel on Palm Sunday broke the same way and he let Anton finish it. Does anyone who attended with him notice him crying? If he was, does anyone know why?
I admit, the last question is kind of silly to ask but it would be cool to know what he was crying about if he was really crying. lol
He cried on Sunday at Saint Mary East Brunswick as he was saying the prayer for the departed for Egypt which was understandable. at the end of the liturgy after our father, he said "let's say our father again for egypt" and cried a little after that.
[quote author=Michael Boutros link=topic=11441.msg138258#msg138258 date=1305832473]
Thanks so much Mina, I second the request for a video though!
I talked to the person who recorded the liturgy and they said they will try to get it online by Sunday. I will post the link once up.
How did he pray the prayer for the departed? Isn't that a priest part?
Sorry I meant while saying the response.
http://www.justin.tv/stgeorgejc/b/286351634
Part 1: http://blip.tv/saintmary/holy-liturgy-ibrahim-ayad-may-2011-part-1-5193125
Part 2: http://blip.tv/saintmary/holy-liturgy-ibrahim-ayad-may-2011-part-2-5193123
CIA teaching niethnos teero now: http://stmaryserver.saint-mary.net/streaming/
Please tell me someone recorded it!
1. Couldn't make out from the visual it was CIA
2. Sound quality was poor
3. shocking:
a) two bishops entered and the deacons did not process them in by greeting
b) the priest, Fr. David, was carrying the bags for the bishops rather than the deacons
c) Bp. David was taking his coat off at the altar because there was no deacon to have
taken his coat at the door.
Deacons are servants and janitors. They carry the bags, take the coats, greet at the door, summon the priest to tell him that the bishop has arrived, and get the cross for the procession.
CIA teaching niethnos teero now: http://stmaryserver.saint-mary.net/streaming/
The link you provided doesn't work. Is it a link to a live recording as in live streaming or the recording of CIA teaching "Niethnos?"
[quote author=copticuser20 link=topic=11441.msg138449#msg138449 date=1306199308]
CIA teaching niethnos teero now: http://stmaryserver.saint-mary.net/streaming/
The link you provided doesn't work. Is it a link to a live recording as in live streaming or the recording of CIA teaching "Niethnos?"
it was a live stream.
I don't know if CIA left or not but can anyone ask him why he records "Apikhristos analempsis" while Deacon Albair records it as "Xristos?" What is his reasoning behind it? Thanks.
Not only Albair but also the other recordings on this site are different. Cantor Farag says "Pikhristos" but not "a", Cantor Gad says "Khristos," and HCIS says "Khristos." Confusing!
[quote author=kmeka001 link=topic=11441.msg138494#msg138494 date=1306285754]
I don't know if CIA left or not but can anyone ask him why he records "Apikhristos analempsis" while Deacon Albair records it as "Xristos?" What is his reasoning behind it? Thanks.
Not only Albair but also the other recordings on this site are different. Cantor Farag says "Pikhristos" but not "a", Cantor Gad says "Khristos," and HCIS says "Khristos." Confusing!
Thanks for sharing my pain Michael! lol
I think I'm going to go with Deacon Albair because the rest of the words are Greek and the word "Xhristos" is also Greek but "Pikhristos" is Coptic; it won't match the rest of the words. However, in "Pikhristos aftonf," the hymn right after it, it says "Pikhristos...," which is Coptic like the rest of the words of the hymn. This is my logic behind my decision. Does anyone have the reasoning of authoritative figures? Maybe CIA's reasoning?
I think I'm going to go with Deacon Albair because the rest of the words are Greek and the word "Xhristos" is also Greek but "Pikhristos" is Coptic; it won't match the rest of the words. However, in "Pikhristos aftonf," the hymn right after it, it says "Pikhristos...," which is Coptic like the rest of the words of the hymn. This is my logic behind my decision. Does anyone have the reasoning of authoritative figures? Maybe CIA's reasoning?
in albair's book it's a pikhrestos. in anba mettaous rites book, it's a pikhrestos. the change is rewording to make the hymn in the past tense.....even thoo it's greek.
[quote author=kmeka001 link=topic=11441.msg138496#msg138496 date=1306289198]
I think I'm going to go with Deacon Albair because the rest of the words are Greek and the word "Xhristos" is also Greek but "Pikhristos" is Coptic; it won't match the rest of the words. However, in "Pikhristos aftonf," the hymn right after it, it says "Pikhristos...," which is Coptic like the rest of the words of the hymn. This is my logic behind my decision. Does anyone have the reasoning of authoritative figures? Maybe CIA's reasoning?
in albair's book it's a pikhrestos. in anba mettaous rites book, it's a pikhrestos. the change is rewording to make the hymn in the past tense.....even thoo it's greek.
If that's the case, then why isn't it "A Pikhristos aftonf" for the Resurrection and the 39 days following it
instead of "Pikhristos aftonf?"
[quote author=minatasgeel link=topic=11441.msg138497#msg138497 date=1306289969]
[quote author=kmeka001 link=topic=11441.msg138496#msg138496 date=1306289198]
I think I'm going to go with Deacon Albair because the rest of the words are Greek and the word "Xhristos" is also Greek but "Pikhristos" is Coptic; it won't match the rest of the words. However, in "Pikhristos aftonf," the hymn right after it, it says "Pikhristos...," which is Coptic like the rest of the words of the hymn. This is my logic behind my decision. Does anyone have the reasoning of authoritative figures? Maybe CIA's reasoning?
in albair's book it's a pikhrestos. in anba mettaous rites book, it's a pikhrestos. the change is rewording to make the hymn in the past tense.....even thoo it's greek.
If that's the case, then why isn't it "A Pikhristos aftonf" for the Resurrection and the 39 days following it
instead of "Pikhristos aftonf?"
it have to do with the theological understanding of the Resurrection.
[quote author=kmeka001 link=topic=11441.msg138498#msg138498 date=1306290269]
[quote author=minatasgeel link=topic=11441.msg138497#msg138497 date=1306289969]
[quote author=kmeka001 link=topic=11441.msg138496#msg138496 date=1306289198]
I think I'm going to go with Deacon Albair because the rest of the words are Greek and the word "Xhristos" is also Greek but "Pikhristos" is Coptic; it won't match the rest of the words. However, in "Pikhristos aftonf," the hymn right after it, it says "Pikhristos...," which is Coptic like the rest of the words of the hymn. This is my logic behind my decision. Does anyone have the reasoning of authoritative figures? Maybe CIA's reasoning?
in albair's book it's a pikhrestos. in anba mettaous rites book, it's a pikhrestos. the change is rewording to make the hymn in the past tense.....even thoo it's greek.
If that's the case, then why isn't it "A Pikhristos aftonf" for the Resurrection and the 39 days following it
instead of "Pikhristos aftonf?"
it have to do with the theological understanding of the Resurrection.
And what would that be?
enjoy.
[quote author=kmeka001 link=topic=11441.msg137961#msg137961 date=1305448827]
How long will he be in the US? And will he be going to any other state, specifically California after he is done?
i really really really think that he won't.
Hey minatasgeel, you said that he would never go to California ? The real Ibrahim Ayad came yesterday to St. Antony's Monastery in Yermo, CA.