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does anyone know where i can get the monks in the monestar in texas. i want to hear their tasbeha i heard it was amasing.
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does anyone know where i can get the monks in the monestar in texas. i want to hear their tasbeha i heard it was amasing.
i don't have any recordings...but i can tell you a little about it.
it is all in coptic. it is very quick. and they do tasbeha everyday at 4 am.
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does anyone know where i can get the monks in the monestar in texas. i want to hear their tasbeha i heard it was amasing.
i don't have any recordings...but i can tell you a little about it.
it is all in coptic. it is very quick. and they do tasbeha everyday at 4 am.
lol, memooories :) Yes it is veery quick.
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[quote author=markmarcos link=topic=13205.msg154848#msg154848 date=1335044287]
does anyone know where i can get the monks in the monestar in texas. i want to hear their tasbeha i heard it was amasing.
i don't have any recordings...but i can tell you a little about it.
it is all in coptic. it is very quick. and they do tasbeha everyday at 4 am.
lol, memooories :) Yes it is veery quick.
we might of broken the record for the fastest morning doxology==maybe less than 3 mins.
A priest once told us that the monks are always "in Spirit", i.e. always in God and God in them. Thus it becomes very easy for them to reach in the depth and stillness of prayer VERY quickly. As they are extremely focused on God, they see everything clearly; their mind enters the heart and speed no longer matters.
PFM
To enter into the presence of God surely leads us to pray more slowly and more carefully, not more quickly. We can read of the Fathers who become so transported in prayer that they lose sense of time even while praying just the Lord's prayer, but we don't read about them rushing through any service.
I can't imagine praying the Lord's prayer, for example, with more attention and care by praying it more quickly. Rather by praying it more slowly.
If the Psalms were being chanted quickly, but not too quickly, during prayers that lasted 1 hour then what you say is entirely understandable and seems exactly what St John Climacus means. But if Psalms were being chanted such that prayers lasted only 3 minutes then that would not seem to be consistent with what St John Climacus means.
It is true that praying a little quicker can aid attention, but if that attention is only held for 3 minutes then that does not seem to be why we gather to pray?
I think I was especially confused by the post which suggested that monks can immediately enter a spirit of prayer, and also the reference to 3 minutes, as if these were describing the same thing.
Quite clearly I would want to agree that praying passages more quickly (but never too quickly) in the context of the round of prayers is not not the same as rushing at all.
I am not sure that anyone is being judged, rather it is being honestly asked how completing prayers in 3 minutes achieves the proper end?
The prayer is 2 hours. The morning doxology is APPROXIMATLY 3 minutes. Although, thats not always the case, cause when anba Youssef's there, they do it VERY slowly.
When anba youssef is there, he only stays for the praises. He rarely prays liturgy there, unless he wants to ordain someone, and or on an occasion if he wont be there for some time. So he likes to take his time in the tasbeha and he also prays it pretty fast. Keep in mind that this is all in coptic and anba youssef is probably the only one that understand half of the words to begin with.
Its at a pace where they finish on time so that they can continue with their activities the rest of the day. They arent trying to cheap God out of tasbeha and they arent trying to just get it over with. They do it at a pace so that it doesnt take three hours on a daily basis.
Work still has to get done! :)