do we all carrie or parents sins

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• beshoy

  April 2005

  we do not carry our parents sin, so you have no reason to worry mickeyy231! I highly recommend you read the Ezekiel 18 which very clearly and direcly answers this question.
  
  And a very common misconception that we have is that we inherited Adam's sin, and therefore we are born sinners. This is actually NOT the Coptic Orthodox belief, but rather we believe: (quoted from the Southern Diocese Servant Preparation course packet "Orignal Sin and Atonement")
  
  "What we inherit or what is transmitted to us is Adam's fallen human nature and not his actual sin. Moreover, we have our own sins to contend with because all of us have sinned and deserve punishment."
  
  I hope this clarifies.
• mickeyy231

  April 2005

  i know that we dont carry our parents sins but i am saying since we dont carry their sins WHY do we carry adam and Eve sins. you know what i mean
  
• Safaa

  April 2005

  Hello mickey231
  
  This is a Q & A by H.H. Pope Shenouda III
  The title : Iniquity of the fathers on the children
  
  THE INIQUITY OF THE FATHERS ON THE CHILDREN
  by HH Pope Shenouda
  
  
  Question:
  Could the iniquity of the fathers visit the children as the Bible says
  in (Ex. 20:5) and as we say "The fathers ate sour grapes and the
  children's teeth are set on edge"?
  
  Answer:
  The fathers can hand down to their children physically
  the result of their sins or sicknesses. The parent could sin and as a
  result of his or her sin they may have contract a sickness and then the
  son or the daughter could inherit that sickness. The children could be
  stricken by mental or neurological diseases, some blood disorders or
  congenital defects as a result of what was inherited from their
  parents. Often the sickness of the children and their suffering are a
  cause of pain for the parents especially if they knew that the sickness
  was a result of their sins.
  
  
  The children might inherit ill-nature or bad character
  from their parents.
  
  But this is not a rule; king Saul was cruel, merciless and of bad
  character. His son Jonathan was the opposite. Jonathan was a friend of
  David. He loved him and was faithful to him. Even if the children
  inherit ill-nature from their parents, they can with ease get rid of it
  if they wish.
  
  A son can inherit poverty or debts because of his father's mistakes...
  
  He suffers because of it, of course on earth, and that would have
  nothing to do with his eternal life. Many are the end results that the
  saying of the poet agrees with "This is what my father inflicted upon
  me, and I did not inflict on anyone."
  As for judging the children for the sins that were committed personally
  by their parents, the Bible has refuted completely as written in he
  Book of Ezekiel "what do you mean when you use this proverb... the
  fathers have eaten sour grapes, and the children's teeth are set on
  edge? 'As I live' says the Lord God, you shall no longer use this
  proverb the soul who
  sins shall die... "
  The son shall not bear the guilt of the father, nor the
  father bear the guilt of the son:
  
  "The righteousness of the righteous shall be upon himself, and the
  wickedness of the wicked shall be upon himself. (Ezek. 18:1-20).
  The righteous Jonathan did not bear the evil of his father king Saul
  nor Josiah the righteous king the sin of Aaron his father or Manasseh
  his grandfather or the rest of his forefathers.
  
  The curses of the law in the Old Testament was abolished in the New
  Testament. As we say in the Anaphora of St. Gregory:
  "You have lifted the curse of the Law"
  
  As an example of this curse, Canaan, did bear the curse of his father
  Ham, (Gen. 9:22-25) and his sons also bore it till the days of the Lord
  Christ and not only till the fourth generation. Now, we are in the era
  of "grace and truth" (John 1:17) so do not be afraid of the curse of
  the Law which was inherited by the children from their grandfathers.
  Often the father could be evil but the son is righteous refusing to
  walk in his father's footsteps, and even he might resist him as the
  Lord says, "He who loves father or mother more than Me is not worthy of
  Me." (Matt. 10:37).
  
  Naturally it would be unjust for God to visit the sins
  of this evil father on his righteous son who deserves to be rewarded.
  
  
  
  
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• Safaa

  April 2005

  This is the website, I forgot to post it
  
  http://www.copticpope.org/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=339&mode=&order=0&thold=0
  
  
• beshoy

  April 2005

  thank you Safaa. Thats exactly the passage from Ezekiel 18 which answers the question of how we do not carry our parents sin.
  
  To answer your question, we DO NOT CARRY Adam and Eve's original sin. We DID NOT INHERIT their sin. We only inherited Adam's CORRUPT NATURE, leaving us more vulnerable to sin.