Introduction to the Gospel when the bishop is present

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• minatasgeel

  September 2006

  [quote author=baladoos link=board=2;threadid=4375;start=0#msg60189 date=1157321912]
  Hi Guys
  Please I'm in desparate need for the (introduction to the gospel when the bishop is present) by Cantor Ibrahim Ayad. By the way I mean only when the bishop is present not when the pope is present because I already have the one when the pope is present. If not ibrahim ayad please tell me about anyone else who recorded it and where I can find it.
  
  Thanks
  
  
  
  
  well it doesn't really make much difference because you still have to say the one for the pope.
• hany58

  September 2006

  Mina are you sure?? so when the bishop is present you say the one for the pope as well, like how cantor ibrahim ayad say it on the nativity liturgy on the cathedral?? but on the khedmet elshammas it says that the introduction to the gospel when the bishop is present is a lot smaller than that for the pope, so please tell me about what you think
  
  Baladoos
• minatasgeel

  September 2006

  well, the one yuo are talking about is really big and mostly they don't say it except in the feasts. ike you see in the live services. but normaly and when H.H. was here, we just say Marochasf fast. also any way, "he" says the gospel if he is praying the whole litrugy sooo.
  
  Baladoos
  You said that you're just a starter in alhan. so i think all you have to do is learn the basic st Basil litrugy. as much as possible tho. don't go into all the long lhns, just basics to the point that you can do a litrugy by yourself with abouna.
• hany58

  September 2006

  Thanks a lot Mina, my question is now, can we say the one that ibrahim ayad says in feasts when the bishop is present only i.e pope is not present but only the bishop is present. If no, what do we say? and did Ibrahim ayad or anyone else record the introduction to the gospel when only the bishop is present, i.e pope is not present but only the bishop is present??
  
  Thanks a lot
  
  Baladoos
• minatasgeel

  September 2006

  here:
  http://tasbeha.org/mp3/Hymns/Other_Occasions/Papal_Hymns/Wagdi_Bishara.html
  
  where it says Tawaf, there is 3 tunes.
  
  also here:
  Psalm - Singari
  
  at 7:17
  if you wanna hear Ibrahim Ayad that bad.
• hany58

  September 2006

  Ok mina, do you have any idea where can i find it in arabic not just coptic??
• minatasgeel

  September 2006

  i don't think it's recorded in any rites. may be if there is some live stuff you can hear it. well in arabic and english, deacon just wing it because there is no right or wring way. as long as you have the right tune. like seiamee, kihaky, hazaine,...
• WWJD86

  September 2006

  actually, there is a different introduction when the bishop is there and a different introduction when the pope is there. Its in the liturgy book. the one for the bishop doesnt mention the pope becuase its the bishop reading
• hany58

  September 2006

  Yep that's correct but do you know if anyone recorded it? if yes can you please give me the link?
  
• minatasgeel

  September 2006

  [quote author=WWJD86 link=board=2;threadid=4375;start=0#msg60217 date=1157341947]
  actually, there is a different introduction when the bishop is there and a different introduction when the pope is there. Its in the liturgy book. the one for the bishop doesnt mention the pope becuase its the bishop reading
  
  
  What do you mean it doesn't mention HH. In any bishop response you must include the Pope. He is in fact the Archbishop of our church.
• WWJD86

  September 2006

  In Marochasf (Let them Exalt), it does mention the pope....but when the deacon says "Stand in the fear of God and let us hear the gospel from the mouth of our honored father Abba__..." that does not mention the pope.
  
  Marochasf and the part mentioned above are two completely different parts