666 anyone?

edited December 1969 in Faith Issues
Hi,

What does the Church say about this number?? Apparently its the sign of the anti-Christ. What do our Church fathers say this sign is?

I was just taking a look at history to see what was going on around 666 AD, and i couldn't help notice something really weired:

It was the rise of Islam. In fact, the period when Islam flourished was in 678 AD (the Siege of Constantinople) - this really butchered the Christianity.


If i subtract 678 AD from the Date that Christ died, i get 666 (i mean, more or less).

But, perhaps i'm just speculating... or thinking aloud, i'll wait for the Professionals to write and explain the meaning behind 666.

Thanks,

Comments

  • It is the number of the beast; not the anti-Christ.

    It is worthy to note, some texts say 616.

    In the Bible, the number of six stands for imperfection; seven for  perfection, fullness, completion; eight for eschatological perfection, a superabundance of fullness (c.f. 2 Enoch 33:1).

    Nero Caesar transliterated from Greek into Hebrew is 666, and from Latin to Hebrew is 616. People considered Domitian to be Nero reincarnated- hence it could be in merely in reference to those who adopt the spirit of hatred of Christ's people, and persecute it, as Nero did.
  • [quote author=clay link=topic=6579.msg87267#msg87267 date=1210609580]
    It is the number of the beast; not the anti-Christ.


    Yeah, but its interesting though? isn't it?

    Tell me clay, what does 666 mean? What beast?

    And who do u believe the anti-Christ is?
  • Sorry; I edited my post while you were writing yours. :)
  • To me 666 does not depict a future number, but the century when the Anti Christ unleashed major wars and invasions against Christians. This was the century when somebody told the world that Judas the traitor was a hero, that the Lord was never crucified and therefor never resurrected and that all the scriptures were wrong . That was the century when Satan got company in blaspheming the Most Holy Trinity in denying its mysterious  nature.Sorry, I can not think of any other Anti-christ.
  • [quote author=Hezekiel link=topic=6579.msg87305#msg87305 date=1210627436]
    To me 666 does not depict a future number, but the century when the Anti Christ unleashed major wars and invasions against Christians. This was the century when somebody told the world that Judas the traitor was a hero, that the Lord was never crucified and therefor never resurrected and that all the scriptures were wrong . That was the century when Satan got company in blaspheming the Most Holy Trinity in denying its mysterious  nature.Sorry, I can not think of any other Anti-christ.


    Yeah, that would be in Islam. THey waged a war against us when they took over constantinople: 666 years AFTER Our Lord's death.
  • So...QT, Islam, Obama, any connections...hmmmm...lol  ;)
  • 18 Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man: His number is 666.  revelation chapter 13
  • [quote author=coptic pharaoh link=topic=6579.msg87365#msg87365 date=1210632243]
    18 Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man: His number is 666.  revelation chapter 13


    Its the number of a man. 

    What does that mean? His number? since when do we identify men with numbers?? They didnt have social security back then in those times... what number!?

    Mohammed died in 633 AD.. right?
    So, if I add Mohammed's year of death to that of Our Lord's age (when He died on the cross) we get 666. Right??

    The number of a man??? This is bugging me...

    What do our fathers say about this number??
  • The number of man refers to our imperfection thats all 666 equals complete imperfection while 777 is complete perfection
  • [quote author=coptic pharaoh link=topic=6579.msg87365#msg87365 date=1210632243]
    18 Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man: His number is 666.  revelation chapter 13


    Look, Saint John is giving us HUGE clues... he says "let him who has understanding CALCULATE the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man".

    a) We have to calculate it. It means that we have to use either + / - / x / or divide to get the number of the beast.
    b) This beast is the number of a man
    c) A beast? This powerful force.. ugly in nature..

    John, what language did he write Revelations in?? Was it Greek?? I need to know!! PLEASE TELL ME!
  • Most likely his native tongue or the tongue he was addressing revelations to
  • [quote author=jydeacon link=topic=6579.msg87399#msg87399 date=1210634416]
    Most likely his native tongue or the tongue he was addressing revelations to


    Yeah, which was what? Didnt he live in Patmos ? It means that it was greek?? non?

    He was an apostle anyway, he spoke loads of languages (gifts of the Holy Spirit)...
    WHat language was the original manuscript in for the book of revelations? Aramaic , Greek, or Latin?
  • QT,

    It was in Greek.Some scholars think,the number 666 aplies to Nero. The numbers associated with the letters of his full name add up to 666.John says in revelations that the beast was given authority  for 42 months .The length of time exactly matches with Nero's persecutions of Christians.

    Revelation 13:17-18
     
    17 ... one who has the mark or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. ... for it is the number of a man: His number is 666.

  • [quote author=Hezekiel link=topic=6579.msg87407#msg87407 date=1210634986]
    QT,

    It was in Greek.Some scholars think,the number 666 aplies to Nero. The numbers associated with the letters of his full name add up to 666.John says in revelations that the beast was given authority  for 42 months .The length of time exactly matches with Nero's persecutions of Christians.

    Revelation 13:17-18
     
    17 ... one who has the mark or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. ... for it is the number of a man: His number is 666.



    Thanks Hez, (how do u know all this by the  way?)
    Do we believe in the works of Nostradamus?
  • A great book to read is "The apocalypse code" by Hank Hanegraff...Although he is Protestant, he does not conform to dispensational end of times prophecies. The book helped in ridding my intellect from alot of the dispensationalist protestant jargon (which I sadly see rattling on these forums) that I have come across on TV and sometimes even in our Churches.

    The essence of his book is interpreting the NT prophecies in light of the OT. Below is a post of a review summarising two points in his book:

    "Matthew 24 is a prime example. For their model to work, dispensationalists must change the meaning of "this generation" in verse 34 to mean something other than the people standing before Jesus at the time. Why? Because in addition to predicting the destruction of the temple (which we all know occurred in 70 AD), Jesus appears to be predicting his second coming ("The sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from the sky. . . . They will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of the sky, with power and great glory."). Dispensationalists will say that part obviously didn't happen in 70 AD, so "this generation" must mean something other than "this generation." The problem is, on all four earlier occasions in Matthew, Jesus's use of "this generation" always refers to the people alive at the time. It never refers to a future generation.

    Hank's treatment of this passage is eye-opening--in fact, it provided me with a complete paradigm shift. The key to interpreting the passage rightly is the Old Testament. When Jesus refers to the sun being darkened and the moon not giving its light, he is actually quoting from Isaiah 13. How did Isaiah use that imagery? Isaiah used it to refer to the destruction of Babylon nearly 600 years earlier. Now we know that the moon and sun didn't literally stop giving their light in 539 BC--Isaiah was using hyperbolic language to communicate the severity of the judgment. Jesus is using the same language to refer to the coming judgment in 70 AD. Such language communicates judgment more richly that flat literal prose.

    But what about "the Son of Man coming on the clouds?" Jesus is NOT referring to his second coming, but his coming in 70 AD (the end of the age) on a cloud in judgment. In the OT God rode a cloud in judgment (Is. 19:1). (Besides, why would it make any sense to "flee to the mountains" if Jesus was referring to the end of the world?) Again, the key to the NT is the OT. "
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