I don’t read that at all. God said from the beginning that if they ate of the fruit they would die, not that they would die immediately.
I think you need to go back and read genesis again, God says the DAY you eat of the tree of knowledge of good a…
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+ Irini nem ehmot,
Seeing as how you've already made your decision about what you believe, what the deuce was the point of this entire conversation?
FYI: Both Sts. John Chrys…
The fact that Jesus says Baptism is necessary for salvation is all I need to hear. Now, the thief was not baptized but was saved. Some say He was baptized by his blood. This shows us that God is not limited to his own law but WILL fulfill it himself…
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+ Irini nem ehmot,
It is clear to me that you are not reading what I'm saying.
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With all due res…
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+ Irini nem ehmot,
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Now, the fallen nature is a mortal nature which is prone to sin. If we say Ma…
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+ Irini nem ehmot,
I'm sorry, but you are wrong. This shows a grievous misunderstanding of what sin, our fallen nature and salvation is all about. Sin is but the symptom. Chri…
I dont think the orthodox church considers The Holy Mother of God as sinless. Ive heard many intelligent priests and monks agree to this.. The Bible is clear in saying that NO man is without sin, there are countless examples in the Bible exaggeratin…
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The Scripture text points strongly to the fact that the Angel was one of the appearances of the Son of God in the OT. The majority of the Church Fathers treated it that wa…
I agree, but I really want to know whether this was a physical or nonphysical "wrestle" with God... I cant seem to find many saying from the early church fathers.. Does anyone know any other church fathers than commented on this???
No, you make a good point dzheremi.. I think intentions are most important, but what I was saying was what I see, especially in youth. I personally don't know 1 person who got theirs for the sole purpose of "reminding themselves" of their relationsh…
As mentioned earlier, the Christians in the past were FORCED to get tattoos to differentiate between Christians and non-Christians. It has become a tradition now, in my opinion however, this doesn't make it right to willingly get a tattoo, even of a…
You have free will to maryy whoever you like... If your question is, is God okay with you marrying someone outside your culture the answer is also yes... As long as your partner Loves God before you, and you also love God before your partner. God do…
I dunno, maybe im right maybe im wrong, but based on the books ive read concerning liturgical worship, these things are not important unless they take away from the liturgy. Whether i memorize, read off a book, a screen, my hand, if my prayer is mer…
Why is this even a topic we are discussing? Does it matter whether we use sound system or just yell out? Does it matter whether we use books or touch screens? As long as these things don't interfere with prayer which comes from the spirit, why is re…
My question for you lightening is are you looking for God, or are you look for a place to go every sunday? If indeed you are looking for a place to go on sundays as your comment so implies, than the Orthodox church in not for you. Those who seek God…
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Oh.. my apologies.. I did not see where he said that they were baptised as Orthodox as babies? Can you quote it for me?
But even if they were baptised as babies and the pri…
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wow! these questions make me wonder if i should ever get near an orthodox church...
i am really pleased that you guys are bringing to light what it really means to be ort…
Well, there actually coptic, they were baptized as babies, its just one of there parents prefers the protestant church and so they often go there, but now they always come to the orthodox church.
I do want to tell the priest, but I know they would …
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I think maybe, in terms of will, Jesus was saying he does not want to suffer, as NO REAL hu…
But than wouldnt that imply that the souls of the prophets before Jesus never went to hades but went straight to paradise? And we know that isnt true, because it wasnt untill Jesus died that he descended into hades to take with him all the souls of …
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And I'm not kidding, if any of you (UNWORTHY, MEENA_AMEEN etc) advised someone to die of starvation than to break their fast, I WOULD HUNT YOU DOWN and I'd punish you myself…
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You give advice that could ruin someone's health and tell them that it's better to die than break your fast, yet you aren't man enough to face the consequences of your actio…
Your right I probably dont get it, but we die in our sins, meaning, our sins lead to our death. Im getting a bit more confused now though lol. What do you mean original sin? We dont inherit sin. Adams sin was his own, what was passed on to us was th…
I try reading the agpeya before I study, seems to help.. I think God wants something more from me though, and I hope I can find out what it is during this Holy fast