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Abanoub88

Maybe this one in english too? Sorry. Don't worry if its too much work, I probably can't answer the ? anyway.

Thanks,
- Chris

mike_henain

Translation plz, lol!

Unknown

besides asking for a translation... jesus servant, do u think u can possibly list more of those posts that u have listed before on the Coptic Orthodox Church thread considering church history?
i'd GREATLY appreciate it!

mike_henain

if it's about Church history, then count me in man!!


Defender!

Unknown

[quote author=SMS link=board=1;threadid=282;start=0#msg2285 date=1085362561]
besides asking for a translation... jesus servant, do u think u can possibly list more of those posts that u have listed before on the Coptic Orthodox Church thread considering church history?
i'd GREATLY appreciate it!

plzz?

Paulh

Jesus Servant,
Not many of the members know how to read and write arabic so it will be very hard for somebody to reply to you.

Shamas

Hi all

I'm sorry to tell you that this story has no evidance. two weeks ago somebody asked H.H Pope Shenoda III in the weekly meeting in Cairo about this story and he said its myth "ÎÑÇÝÉ" . you can find his opinion in copticpope.org
I think its last question and you can download it from the main page.

Paulh

Shamas,
do u think that you can translate for us what Jesus Servant said in arabic because none of us can read it.

Shamas

hi paullh

My english is not perfect. However, I'll try to do. please give me some time to do.

pray for me

Paulh

Take your time, and thanks!!

Shamas

Hi all
Finally , i finished translation of this long story. here is the translation. I tried to be as accurate as possible.
pray for me
The right thief and perfume
What do you know about Tetos (Zeas) the right thief?
What is the relation between the right thief and the perfume of the sinful woman?
Read this beautiful story …for those who do not know it!!!
Some sources said that right thief is Demas but the fact that supported by the sources and uttered by the old icons is: the name of the right thief is Tetos (zeas) and his real name as we well know from his story is David…..
Let us know about beautiful stories we didn’t know except a few about it.
Tetos the right thief his real name is David. He is the son of Caiaphas the high priest his name was Josef as Josifos the historian said and he was relative to Annas the high priest and Yayros the Leader of hundred(officer). He was very ritch man and he lived in great palace filled by lavish furniture. He had a wife her name was Anne. They have only one child they called them David. They gave him a baby-sitter to take care of him her name is Priska.
Priska has love with Greek man his name is Domakhos he was Danger criminal and he was visiting Priska many times in Caiaphas’ palace.
Caiaphas found him more than one time. Sometimes he speak with him not to come , sometimes send him off and sometimes he rebuke him.
Domakhos felt angry and decided to revenge from Caiaphas. He decide with Priska to marry and escape from Caiaphas’ palace with the child David. David was about three years old when Priska took him and escaped.
Caiaphas searched for his only son and his servants went to every streets, closes to find the child. But they couldn’t find him. Days, monthes and years passed and Caiaphas didn’t find his son David. David’s mum was shocked and she was nervous. She wept every day and every night suffering because of her losed sone.
Priska lived with Domakhos and they got a baby called Stephen. He grew with Tetos(David) they thought they are brothers and also the people who live around them.


Tetos grew and Domakhos trained him to be clever fisherman and in the same time he joined Domakhos in stealing attacks and he was close to the members of Domakhos team of gang sisters. He was strong , intelligent and was cleverer than his father.
Tetos was brave, strong. He has a strong body, nice look, strong arms and black eyes. On the other hand, Stephen was ugly and weak. However, they loved each other too much as they believe they are brothers.
Domakhos was evil and drink a lot. One day he felt extremely anger on Stephen and beatet him on his back so Stephen became lame. Priska was very sad and she filled with hostility toward her husband This parasite animal who was the cause of her only son’s sick.

Tetos meet The Christ
One day Domakhos and his bad gang with Tetos was somewhere in the trade road that link between Egypt and Palestine. The holy family was in their road to Egypt escaping from Herod when Domakhos stopped them but Tetos returned to them what his father had Stolen from clothes, food and money. He walked with the holy family to the borders of Egypt and he returned to his gang.
We mentioned this occasion by details because of its relation with story of crucifixion.
In this scare full area between (Awgat el-Khapheer and El-farma)
Where there were gang sisters. Two gang sisters approached to the holy family to steal them but they disappointed when they saw how poor they are. They have an old clothes with little bit of food and money. One of them give the holy family a greeting with respect offering them the help in this danger area where gang sisters where spreaded pretending he is good and brave. This thief’s name was Tetos.
They believed him and he walked with them and he asked them about the cause of going via this road to Egypt in the night. Mary the virgin told him the story of the infant and told hem they obey heavenly order.
The thief looked (meditated) to the infant Jesus with awesome and respect. He saw a light around his face so he asked his mother to carry him on his arm to be blessed. She refused his request , thanked him and requested him to return to his friends. She was keen to protect the child from the thief.
The thief walked with them to the Egyptian borders. He looked to Jesus and found sweat get out from his holy forehead. So he asked his mother to sweep the child’s sweat because he felt with pit. His mother(St. Mary) made sure the thief’s headscarf is clean then she allowed them to do. Here, he smelt a very very beautiful smell and the thief was wondering. He recalled his memory and remembered the miracles of this child story when his mother become pregnant and his birth and the Shepard and the visitors from the east who worshiped him.
He swept the child’s sweat several times and dried his handscarf in small bottle was with him as a bless from this child. He returned happily with his bottle.
Jesus looked to his mum and said: This thief (Tetos) will crucify at my right hand and he will dwell in the paradise because of his faith the second one(Domakhos) will be on my left and he dais with his sins. Mary and Joseph wondered from this speech.

The bottle of Perfume
The thief kept it for a long years and when need money and have nothing he sold it to perfume seller by 300 dinars. The seller kept it in his shop and he respected it until a beautiful women came to him , she was in the near past very bad and commit adultery and used to buy a perfume from him, but this time she asked him in good way about the best kind of perfume. He sold it to her by 500 dinars. She poured it on the foots of Jesus and swept his foots by her hair and she got the gift of the life and saved.

My beloved brethren we will continue
The story of healing Stephen the son of Domakhos in other letter

marys

i'm just wondering... what are the sources of this story?... cuz i'm positive that the right hand theif was Demas... a common vagabond... turned saint. even during Passion Week... we sing the prayer of demas... so it's just news to me that he isn't who the church affirms he is..

egyprincess

i have heard this story too, the part about the perfume and the theif. however, there is a slight differnce in wat i heard
i heard that he was in a gang and the gang was going to robb the holy family, so he said to them, give me this family and u could have the rest. tehy agreed. however, he couldnt rob them. and then the rest is

david_d

hi can you send me the word in that paragraph that says david please?