As we all know, Hitler killed millions of jews in the holocaust.. the argument is that some christains believe he was sent by God to take vengance on the jews but I personally disagree. If God want to punish them I don't believe he'd do it in the hands of a paranoid individual and even if he would allow it, it wouldn't be so cruel...they still are his children afterall..even if they did betray Jesus. What do you guys think?
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"Let His Blood be upon us and our children..."
The above verse has been taken out of context and distorted for almost 2000 years in order to justify anti-semitism{persecution of Jews and others of semitical ethnicity}.It has been used as an excuse to persecute,rape,pillage and murder members the Jewish race,all in the Name of God.These racists,these sons of Hell,use this verse in claiming absolution for their heineous and diabolical crimes.They say,"See these Jews are under a curse,a curse they brought upon themselves;they are Christkillers{since they arent true christians they fail to realize that Christ died voluntarily for the entire human race according to the pre-ordained plan of God}.
The truth is that even if a few Jews were disobedient and hostile to the Lord Jesus Christ they as well as their oath in no way represent or bind the entire Jewish race.Almost every member of the early christian community in Jerusalem and the surrounding vicinity were Jews by birth.The oath did not effect these Jews or their children so why would anybody think this curse was effectualy binding for the whole Jewish race is beyond me.Only ignorant people who do not know God could ever think such a thing.Even if it were true{it is not}that every Jew that has ever lived is under the curse of God that does not give people the right to murder,steal,rape and terrorise the people of God,the children of Abraham,Isaac,and Jacob.
This verse has always been the foundation and bedrock of the false teaching that the Jews were under the curse of God and that christians should actively persecute and terrorise the Hebrew people in order to fulfill God's divine wrath against them.This teaching is the same evil spirit that inspired Haman to plan and attempt genocide against the Jewish race in the Old Testament during the time of Queen Ester.God protected His people then and will continue to do so until the end of time{when the Jews will accept Christ and be saved}.
The Bible says that"God causes all things to work together for good to those that love Him..."yet God is not the author or instigator of evil.God can take what was meant for evil and turn it into good,in such a way that we can actually derive some benefit and grow spiritually but God is never the author of evil or its hideous works.
Now for Hitler, he went through a lot of bad stuff through his life... I know what he did was evil, but I don’t know if he was evil. Who knows maybe he repented before he died, that is why I hate it when people show him in hell (south Park, and many other shows) or talk as if he is in hell, or wherever... I know he did some of the worst actions, but NO one could say, or prove he is in hell. Was he evil? Yes, was he tempted to sin? Yes, did his sin cause the death of 12 million, who over 50% of them were, Jews? Unfortunately yes.
Now Hitler was one of the smartest people in politics, which is how he convinced so many people what he was doing was right. So why would God allow that…. I thought about that for so long, and the best Answer I got was that God, always wants us to learn, so what did we learn from the tragic story of Hitler, easy… don’t miss use our talents, which is almost in every horrible history story, it is always caused by a person miss using their power, if you open a history book you will see God’s lessons, but we never learn… so Hitler was not put on this earth to be the Cause to kill 12 million Jews… but he was put on this world and was allowed to continue in his evil actions, just so that we would all learn a lesson. I am sure some dude out there, if it weren’t for Hitler, he would’ve killed a lot more people, and would’ve done way more mess. But when he heard how the devil tricked an intelligent man like Hitler, changed his way as fast as he could.
Only my crazy thoughts….
As a student of the 3rd Reich and the 2nd world war I can with all confidence attest to the fact that Adolf Hitler was indeed "evil" and undoubtably under the infuence of demonic inspiration.Yet he and his henchmen were not evil because of some genetic defect or according to divine will and purpose but rather because they surrendered their will and conscience to blind ambition and the quest for ultimate power.As they began to walk down this slippery road they found it more and more difficult to exercise their God given conscience with the affect that their consciences were hardened .They eventually arrived at a point where they could order the most heinous of criminal acts,suffering no remorse or guilt whatsoever.Let us all be careful lest we continually harden our hearts against the precious Holy Spirit and thus{God forbid}fall into wickedness and great sin,even falling so far as to commit great acts of evil,just as these men did.If only the Nazi's had heeded Jesus when He said,"What does it profit a man if he gain the whole world and yet forfiet his own soul".
Some Jews did participate in the death of Christ{as well as Romans}but the truth is that it was OUR sins that killed Jesus Christ.He died,according to the pre-ordained plan of God,for the sins of the world.It was your sins that killed the Son of God.It was my sins that killed the Lord Jesus.If it wasnt for sins then the Lord of Glory would not have voluntarily laid down His life at the Cross.May God once and for all put an end to that old slanderous lie"the Jews killed Jesus".The whole human race was responsible for the death of the Son of God.
I dont want to be clever, i really am just as confused, but this is my view, now what im trying to say is that it has no connection to the killing of jesus(i believe) however that leaves the actual reason open, that i do not know, so im not putting it off, we all know its abnormal and a big deal, i just want to add that no matter how big, god is greater. And as for hitler, well my closest theory is the devil, but we should keep in mind that god is not of the world.
Then there was the big financial problems in that time (Wallstreet crash), and Germany had a lot of problems/poverty and people were tired and sick of everything was happening.
Now if someone comes up promising u wealth and a stronger Germany, and u are living a miserable life at the moment. No wonder people will vote for that person. Don't forget that Hitler was chosen by the majority of the people (strange circumstances, yes, but in theory he was the democratic leader of Germany).
As for Hitler being the fault of the killing of the Jews: this is not the first time in history that this has happened. Jews where always blamed for everything, because they were in some way outlaws, usually rich, and easy to recognize. Hitler just did what a lot of other politicians would have done in his place, and what is happening today as well. Look at how policians these days blame foreigners for all the problems they have.
Ofcourse the death of millions of people is terrible and should never happen again, but it's not ONLY Hitlers fault. There were a lot of circumstances that led to this, and therefore Hitler wasn't a devil. He was just a very very very good politician.
btw; Don't u think all the Germans that actually colabored with Hitler in killing the Jews, have to be blaimed as well? If a leader as Hitler wants to kill the Jews, why doesn't the whole country oppose him? Why did it go on for such a long time. A lot of people probably agreed with him, so it's just not fair to just blaim Hitler for everything.
i agree
The German people were ripe for the machinations of this political opportunist and they were soon adamant and loyal supporters of Adolf Hitler and the Nazi party.It appeared to the average German that God had raised up a" savior" for the German people.They did not realize nor could they,that a great evil was about to be unleashed on the world and that within 20 years, utter and complete destruction would engulf Germany.
Yes, you are right! But we must also realize that just because Adolf Hitler was democratically elected{he used intimidation and strong arm tactics as well} it does not diminish the fact that he was directly responsible for the deaths of over 40 million people; devastating and ruining the lives of countless human beings,leaving Europe in ruins with many innocent people broken and without hope.No one denies the fact that he was a brilliant politician and that he brought economic stability and security to Germany but we cannot ignore the fact that he was one of the evilist men to ever live on the face of the earth,committing atrocities and crimes against humanity that have rarely been equaled or surpassed in human history.
Btw, there's more people like hitler; Stalin for instance ;)
don't hear much about him lol, it's quite interesting, does anyone know what the reason is for that????
I dont really know what you mean by being"outlaws" ;Dbut that God has blessed them in every country is well known.The Jews have always prospered wherever they have resided,due to hard work and the eternal blessing of God{a blessing for us as well,"I will bless those who bless thee and curse those who curse thee"}.The fact that the Jews have prospered has always caused resentment,hatred and jealousy often leading to violence and terrorism being perpretrated against the children of Abraham,Isaac and Jacob.Hitler had no right whatsoever to commit barbaric acts against these people of God.
Hitler was very anti-christian and sought to replace christianity{a religion he considered weak and harmful to the German nation}with a racial ideology that had more in common with Norse mythology than the teachings of Christ.It was "blood and soil".A doctrine that declared the German Nordic race was racially superior and deserved to rule the world.All other races{especially darker skinned races} were inferior or subhuman.There was to be no mercy shown ,only total domination and subjegation.Hitler on occaision did refer to God but this was a far,far different Diety than the Christian God,the God of the Bible{the only true and living God}.Hitler hated christianity!
I also think they are rich because they are still faithfull to paying the tithes, and therefore blessed by the Lord as Jfranklin said, because he keeps his word, even if they rejected Christ as the Messiah, because God never breaks his promises
You are so right!
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However, the temple will be rebuild, so it's kinda confusing, but ur rite, different topic ;D
neways lyk most of the tym i didn't read all bcz i haven't been reading these topics.. i haven't been on much but i'm back.. i hope i didn't ruen ppls days just by saying that.. :-X
i soooooooo don't agree w/ that i mean wut ppl are saying.. how stupid is that.. i'm not trying to be mean or rude or anything but thats just pure stupid.. i'm serious u guys.. i really really am... (wait we don't have a "straight face" here) i wuda put that but u kno wut i mean.. right?? well i hope u do... :D
Rina ;)