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Hi
I would like to introduce me to you. I attend the St. Mark's Coptic Orthodox Church in Bermuda. We are very blessed to have our Fr.Isaac El-Anthony to leed us to the road of salvation.
:D Even though we are a small community, we are very diverse, in many ways. Just so that you know Bermuda is 21 square miles in total and we have many of Churches(@least 4 in every parish). Thank you for having me in the fold.
I look forward to many enlightenments and growth in a good way.
:D Even though we are a small community, we are very diverse, in many ways. Just so that you know Bermuda is 21 square miles in total and we have many of Churches(@least 4 in every parish). Thank you for having me in the fold.
I look forward to many enlightenments and growth in a good way.
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Enjoy, ask and learn a lot!
GBU
Welcome to the forum, Finote!
lol you're so mean Ioannes :P
Welcome to the forum, Finote!
Why? Because I state the obvious? Should I say that the majority of Copts go to church because it is their "culture" and not for salvation? Oh boy, I am getting really mean!
Anyway...Hi Finote, and welcome! I am excited to learn about the church in your country. Please let us know more about it in your posts. I know I'm not the only one who is curious! I hope you find a lot of interesting and enlightening discussions here. I know I have.
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lol you're so mean Ioannes :P
Welcome to the forum, Finote!
Why? Because I state the obvious? Should I say that the majority of Copts go to church because it is their "culture" and not for salvation? Oh boy, I am getting really mean!
I must agree partially with what you say. The Egyptian culture is forced on everyone who attends a Coptic Church. The church itself is culture, but that doesn't mean the majority of Copts go not for salvation, does that mean they are not righteous? Does that mean I shouldn't trust the majority of Copts for spiritual advice? That's where I don't agree.
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[quote author=TITL link=topic=11627.msg139567#msg139567 date=1308166159]
lol you're so mean Ioannes :P
Welcome to the forum, Finote!
Why? Because I state the obvious? Should I say that the majority of Copts go to church because it is their "culture" and not for salvation? Oh boy, I am getting really mean!
My my, haven't we got the judgmental streak in us. Not only a misogynist, but an ethnophobe as well. Cast out the plank in your own eye before looking at the speck in your brothers.
Man you have issues. The Church of Alexandria has existed for nearly 2 millennia. In that time, it goes without saying that the culture would become a part of the worship. However, any idiot knows that Orthodoxy supersedes all cultural boundaries. If a person gets hung on on culture, the fault is in the individual, not the Church. Is there a prescribed 'style' of worship, as you say? Well duh. The 'style' you seem to have an issue with is the liturgy that was developed by the Apostles, and built upon by their disciples. You have an issue with the 'style', take it up with them. As for everything else Orthodoxy entails, what exactly is that? The fullness of Truth? Gee, sucks to be Orthodox then. It is a phobia, and one you best learn to deal with.
Has anyone required you to eat a bowl of molokheya before becoming Orthodox? What exactly are you referring to? What do the laity impose on you? Most of them don't know or care for Coptic, anyhow. . .
Why is everything I say taken out of context? I am saying it is difficult to learn a new style of worship ON TOP of that we are expected to learn arabic and or coptic. I have no problem with Liturgical worship, in fact I love it obviously or I would not be Orthodox. I am trying to share how difficult it is in becoming Orthodox, we do not need the added difficulty of learning a new language.
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Has anyone required you to eat a bowl of molokheya before becoming Orthodox? What exactly are you referring to? What do the laity impose on you? Most of them don't know or care for Coptic, anyhow. . .
Why is everything I say taken out of context? I am saying it is difficult to learn a new style of worship ON TOP of that we are expected to learn arabic and or coptic. I have no problem with Liturgical worship, in fact I love it obviously or I would not be Orthodox. I am trying to share how difficult it is in becoming Orthodox, we do not need the added difficulty of learning a new language.
You said culture, not me. A major part of culture is food! The fact is the majority of Northern American COC do not cling to arabic or coptic and in fact are moving away from both quickly. It is unfortunate that your church doesn't accommodate English speakers. But I think your case is an exception. Most of the churches in the Southern CA diocese pray primarily in English.
Out of curiosity, where do you pray?
What church? You don't have to answer, if you don't want to.
Do you want the phone number?