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E - Parthenos Ibrahim Ayad Chorus

PaulSamirPaulSamir
edited December 1969 in Hymns Discussion
does any one have the words to the parts that ibrahim ayad and his chorus add during the nativity feast? here is an audio of what i am talking about

http://www.sendspace.com/file/yozbyj

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  • minatasgeelminatasgeel
    [quote author=Crazy4Christ1 link=topic=11805.msg141042#msg141042 date=1310062022]
    does any one have the words to the parts that ibrahim ayad and his chorus add during the nativity feast? here is an audio of what i am talking about

    http://www.sendspace.com/file/yozbyj

    first part is: e-parthenos: http://tasbeha.org/hymn_library/view/84

    second part: another greek hymn (e-gennithes): http://tasbeha.org/hymn_library/view/2172
  • imikhailimikhail
    How do these hymns get added to our heritage.
    Who approves them.
    What is their source.


  • minatasgeelminatasgeel
    [quote author=imikhail link=topic=11805.msg141053#msg141053 date=1310082950]
    How do these hymns get added to our heritage.
    Who approves them.
    What is their source.

    you should ask the or a bishop instead of asking us. HGB Youssef is willing to take ANY kind of questions.
  • imikhailimikhail
    [quote author=minatasgeel link=topic=11805.msg141060#msg141060 date=1310091082]
    [quote author=imikhail link=topic=11805.msg141053#msg141053 date=1310082950]
    How do these hymns get added to our heritage.
    Who approves them.
    What is their source.

    you should ask the or a bishop instead of asking us. HGB Youssef is willing to take ANY kind of questions.



    Tough questions?  :P
  • minatasgeelminatasgeel
    [quote author=imikhail link=topic=11805.msg141062#msg141062 date=1310096310]
    [quote author=minatasgeel link=topic=11805.msg141060#msg141060 date=1310091082]
    [quote author=imikhail link=topic=11805.msg141053#msg141053 date=1310082950]
    How do these hymns get added to our heritage.
    Who approves them.
    What is their source.

    you should ask the or a bishop instead of asking us. HGB Youssef is willing to take ANY kind of questions.

    Tough questions?  :P

    any questions.......asl enta mish hater-tah without an answer.
  • imikhailimikhail
    I am not understanding you Mina
  • minatasgeelminatasgeel
    [quote author=imikhail link=topic=11805.msg141071#msg141071 date=1310122186]
    I am not understanding you Mina

    maybe.....just maybe when a bishop gives you an answer you will stop talking about it.
  • imikhailimikhail
    [quote author=minatasgeel link=topic=11805.msg141074#msg141074 date=1310136798]
    [quote author=imikhail link=topic=11805.msg141071#msg141071 date=1310122186]
    I am not understanding you Mina

    maybe.....just maybe when a bishop gives you an answer you will stop talking about it.


    What do you mean? I just started talking about it ...
  • minatasgeelminatasgeel
    [quote author=imikhail link=topic=11805.msg141075#msg141075 date=1310137241]
    What do you mean? I just started talking about it ...

    No...... http://tasbeha.org/content/community/index.php/topic,11736.msg140788.html#msg140788
  • imikhailimikhail
    [quote author=minatasgeel link=topic=11805.msg141076#msg141076 date=1310138023]
    [quote author=imikhail link=topic=11805.msg141075#msg141075 date=1310137241]
    What do you mean? I just started talking about it ...

    No...... http://tasbeha.org/content/community/index.php/topic,11736.msg140788.html#msg140788


    That was a separate topic altogether. We know the story of how Eparthenos was introduced in our Church. But here we are talking about another part that is added by CIA to the one originally introduced. Am I missing something?
  • minatasgeelminatasgeel
    [quote author=imikhail link=topic=11805.msg141077#msg141077 date=1310138258]
    That was a separate topic altogether. We know the story of how Eparthenos was introduced in our Church. But here we are talking about another part that is added by CIA to the one originally introduced. Am I missing something?

    oh.....you were specifically talking about Egennesis....ok.
    the answer is: he (with the chorus' help) constructed it--rakebha on e-parthenos. they didn't have a recording for that hymn, and being one for the Nativity, they chose to do that.....which actually made many people attack him--people outside egypt who don't really care about him being a cantor who has some say in what happens in hymns today.
  • imikhailimikhail
    Thanks mina for the info.

    I am still baffled as to why borrowing Greek hymns or words instead of authoring Coptic ones. Are we, as Copts, lost the Coptic language to the extent we only know the alphabet? ???
  • minatasgeelminatasgeel
    [quote author=imikhail link=topic=11805.msg141226#msg141226 date=1310396175]
    I am still baffled as to why borrowing Greek hymns or words instead of authoring Coptic ones.
    I am not really with that idea......i don't think we are done with finding what's lost and dealing with what's already there that we can now author new hymns.

    Are we, as Copts, lost the Coptic language to the extent we only know the alphabet? ???

    i have to say that this is what we see.
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