why would dancing be wrong?

bigeee

a group of kids at our church we do hip hop dancing boys and girls and people in church say its wrong.why?

andrew8345

Record yourselves doing it, watch it, and I'm sure you'll be able to answer your question yourself.

bigeee

the girls and guys dont make contact believe it or not we just do hip hop dancing like what dances on music videos not contact though

geomike

Well bigeee, if you listen to the lyrics of these hip hop songs, you will see that they are filthy and full of vanity and emptiness. You should listen to taraneem and hymns in order to immerse yourself in a Christian atmosphere which will help you make more Christ like decisions.

jojo204

+What would Jesus do?
Jesus said, "Follow Me… and learn from Me".
Would any of the saints be doing it?

"Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is good and acceptable and perfect will of God" (Rom 12:2). We are not of this world. We're not meant to fit in, but stand out as God's children.

"All things are lawful for me, but not all things are edify" (1 Cor. 10:23)

forgiveme

Christianity is not whether what you do is right or wrong, its whether what you do will bring you closer to God or not.

please pray for me

George_Mina_Awad

Unworthy1 and ilovejesus said it perfectly.


forgiveme,

I could not disagree more. In almost all cases, there is a definite right and wrong, and making that choice may draw you either closer or apart from God.

ilovesaintmark

I don't think the same dedication has been (or would be) instituted for your spiritual existence.

To memorize the idiotic steps, with their sexual explicitness, emulating freaks of the human existence, would not be leading you anywhere except the slippery slope to hell.

One must ask:  the same dedication being given to one's existence; including--studying, praying, living a civil and enjoyful life?

Khas.

[quote author=ilovesaintmark link=topic=11966.msg142452#msg142452 date=1312280508]
One must ask:  the same dedication being given to one's existence; including--studying, praying, living a civil and enjoyful life?

imikhail

[quote author=bigeee link=topic=11966.msg142338#msg142338 date=1312160368]
the girls and guys dont make contact believe it or not we just do hip hop dancing like what dances on music videos not contact though


Ask your self this question:

If Jesus is present, will you still dance?

If the answer is yes, then by all means do it. If, however, the answer is no then have this attitude with whatever you do in your life.

Khas.

[quote author=imikhail link=topic=11966.msg142455#msg142455 date=1312284830]
[quote author=bigeee link=topic=11966.msg142338#msg142338 date=1312160368]
the girls and guys dont make contact believe it or not we just do hip hop dancing like what dances on music videos not contact though


Ask your self this question:

If Jesus is present, will you still dance?

If the answer is yes, then by all means do it. If, however, the answer is no then have this attitude with whatever you do in your life.

I saw this Coptic girl do erotic dancing, I was very ashamed. You know, the origin of dancing comes from sexual desires.

geomike

[quote author=Khas. link=topic=11966.msg142457#msg142457 date=1312285745]
[quote author=imikhail link=topic=11966.msg142455#msg142455 date=1312284830]
[quote author=bigeee link=topic=11966.msg142338#msg142338 date=1312160368]
the girls and guys dont make contact believe it or not we just do hip hop dancing like what dances on music videos not contact though


Ask your self this question:

If Jesus is present, will you still dance?

If the answer is yes, then by all means do it. If, however, the answer is no then have this attitude with whatever you do in your life.

I saw this Coptic girl do erotic dancing, I was very ashamed. You know, the origin of dancing comes from sexual desires.


It comes from it and leads to it.

peterfarrington

Not all dancing does.

Almost all modern dancing does.

geomike

[quote author=Father Peter link=topic=11966.msg142464#msg142464 date=1312301239]
Not all dancing does.

Almost all modern dancing does.


Well, in this thread we are talking about Hip Hop and that for sure has its origin in that area of lust.

nadera

[quote author=ilovesaintmark link=topic=11966.msg142452#msg142452 date=1312280508]
I don't think the same dedication has been (or would be) instituted for your spiritual existence.

To memorize the idiotic steps, with their sexual explicitness, emulating freaks of the human existence, would not be leading you anywhere except the slippery slope to hell.

One must ask:  the same dedication being given to one's existence; including--studying, praying, living a civil and enjoyful life?


This, here, really addresses the crux of the issue. 

Khas.

[quote author=nadera link=topic=11966.msg142503#msg142503 date=1312391291]
[quote author=ilovesaintmark link=topic=11966.msg142452#msg142452 date=1312280508]
I don't think the same dedication has been (or would be) instituted for your spiritual existence.

To memorize the idiotic steps, with their sexual explicitness, emulating freaks of the human existence, would not be leading you anywhere except the slippery slope to hell.

One must ask:  the same dedication being given to one's existence; including--studying, praying, living a civil and enjoyful life?


This, here, really addresses the crux of the issue. 

Exactly why I doubled quoted it. ilovesaintmark is always on the mark.

Khas.

WHAT A SWEET DEAL!

Timothym

We can't say that all dancing is evil. In the case of hip-hop, if it involved close contact between opposite sexes and explicit or implicit moves/gestures, than obviously this is sinful behaviour. If the lyrics to the song were also of a sexual/inappropriate nature, this too is not right for us to be a part of. However, the fear  is also that we ban dancing and music outright thinking that all secular (non-religious) music/dancing is wrong. On the contrary, there is a time and place for everything and some of the most joyous times in ones life are expressed through music and dance such as at family weddings and celebrations. The bible also speaks in certain instances of joyous dancing, of course to be distinguished from lustful dancing.

Khas.

[quote author=Timothym link=topic=11966.msg142721#msg142721 date=1312694512]
We can't say that all dancing is evil. In the case of hip-hop, if it involved close contact between opposite sexes and explicit or implicit moves/gestures, than obviously this is sinful behaviour. If the lyrics to the song were also of a sexual/inappropriate nature, this too is not right for us to be a part of. However, the fear  is also that we ban dancing and music outright thinking that all secular (non-religious) music/dancing is wrong. On the contrary, there is a time and place for everything and some of the most joyous times in ones life are expressed through music and dance such as at family weddings and celebrations. The bible also speaks in certain instances of joyous dancing, of course to be distinguished from lustful dancing.

What a sweet deal!

Copticdeacon

So when David danced he had lust? So in churches where dancing is a part of their liturgical service they have lust? Of course not as Father Peter said not all dancing does

geomike

[quote author=I Believe link=topic=11966.msg142736#msg142736 date=1312758702]
So when David danced he had lust? So in churches where dancing is a part of their liturgical service they have lust? Of course not as Father Peter said not all dancing does


What you says is true, but this thread is about HIP-HOP dancing.

irishpilgrim

It is spiritually dangerous to look for exceptions and loopholes in spiritual principles. It shows an intent to disobey (sin against) spiritual practice and wisdom. The U.S. Southern Diocese website contains 5 answers that explain some of the dangers of dancing. See, http://www.suscopts.org/q&a/index.php?catid=97.

Copticdeacon

yes you're right geomike sorry