The song says (Excuse my poor translation skills):
God is with us
He’s never let go of our hands He is attentive of us and our problems We are engraved on the palm of His hand (in good and bad times)
All the goodness we have comes from Him alone Only His protection gave us rest Problems resolved as soon as the heart calls on him
All the goodness we have comes from Him alone Only His protection gave us rest Whenever anyone is in trouble, they find Him.
God is with us Nobody can think about approaching a congregation protected by Jesus Go is with us What can trouble someone who laid their burden on Him
God is with us Why worry about tomorrow, He will surely take care of it God is with us All the past and memories witness that He is not far.
God is with us Whatever happens, He can protect his congregation from the beasts God is with us With His hands our joy will arrive, so you mustn't be scared
[quote author=Copticandproud link=topic=13977.msg161726#msg161726 date=1354741638] Servos, do you know of any Serbian Hymns that are sang in English?
Do you mean Church hymns ? We (Eastern Orthodox) have big diaspora in USA so there is a lot of hymns in English, but sung by Greeks, Russians, Arabs... etc. Do you mean Serbian hymns in English? Or Eastern Orthodox hymns in English ? :)
[quote author=Servos link=topic=13977.msg161727#msg161727 date=1354742648] [quote author=Copticandproud link=topic=13977.msg161726#msg161726 date=1354741638] Servos, do you know of any Serbian Hymns that are sang in English?
Do you mean Church hymns ? We (Eastern Orthodox) have big diaspora in USA so there is a lot of hymns in English, but sung by Greeks, Russians, Arabs... etc. Do you mean Serbian hymns in English? Or Eastern Orthodox hymns in English ? :)
This is beautiful! In the Coptic church, we have what is called the Midnight Prasies. (tasbeha in arabic (hint the name of the website)) This is usually done before the Liturgy and after the Vespers. Do the Serbian or any other Eastern Orthodox have any equivalent to it?
This is beautiful! In the Coptic church, we have what is called the Midnight Prasies. (tasbeha in arabic (hint the name of the website)) This is usually done before the Liturgy and after the Vespers. Do the Serbian or any other Eastern Orthodox have any equivalent to it?
[quote author=Copticandproud link=topic=13977.msg161737#msg161737 date=1354762149] In the Coptic church, we have what is called the Midnight Prasies. This is usually done before the Liturgy and after the Vespers. Do the Serbian or any other Eastern Orthodox have any equivalent to it?
Do You have after the vesper in Saturday and before Liturgy in Sunday matins (=orthros) ? In that case Tasbeha is something different from orthros. In Serbia (Russia, Greece...) orthros and vespers are regularly daily services regardless of Liturgy. In Serbia and Russia we have in Saturday vigil (vesper and orthros joined) and we are coming in Sunday (in my Diocese at 9 am) and Liturgy starts immediately. In Greece in Saturday is only vesper, and in Sunday orthros followed by Liturgy.
[quote author=Servos link=topic=13977.msg161743#msg161743 date=1354794445] [quote author=Copticandproud link=topic=13977.msg161737#msg161737 date=1354762149] In the Coptic church, we have what is called the Midnight Prasies. This is usually done before the Liturgy and after the Vespers. Do the Serbian or any other Eastern Orthodox have any equivalent to it?
Do You have after the vesper in Saturday and before Liturgy in Sunday matins (=orthros) ? In that case Tasbeha is something different from orthros. In Serbia (Russia, Greece...) orthros and vespers are regularly daily services regardless of Liturgy. In Serbia and Russia we have in Saturday vigil (vesper and orthros joined) and we are coming in Sunday (in my Diocese at 9 am) and Liturgy starts immediately. In Greece in Saturday is only vesper, and in Sunday orthros followed by Liturgy.
Here is our usual liturgical prayers. For our case I will use the Sunday's liturgy.
It all starts saturday evening with Agpeya prayers (The Book of Hours) After that we have a set of chants that is called the Vespers Praises (evening tasbeha). Then we have the Vespers Prayers. After the Vespers Prayers, there is more prayers from the Book of Hours and then we start midnight prasies (Midnight tasbeha) The midnight tasbeha should last all night long. Then Sunday Morning we pray the first hour from the Book of Prayers and then we have Matins Prasis. After the Matins prasis, there is matins prayers. At the end, there is the liturgy.
[quote author=Copticandproud link=topic=13977.msg161745#msg161745 date=1354803924] Then Sunday Morning... we have Matins Prasis. After the Matins prasis, there is matins prayers.
This should be equivavalent to our Matins (= Orthros). So, no, we do not have Tasbeha.
[quote author=Servos link=topic=13977.msg161746#msg161746 date=1354804559] [quote author=Copticandproud link=topic=13977.msg161745#msg161745 date=1354803924] Then Sunday Morning... we have Matins Prasis. After the Matins prasis, there is matins prayers.
This should be equivavalent to our Matins (= Orthros). So, no, we do not have Tasbeha.
ps. First hour is in Serbia after Matins.
What is the literal translation for Orthos? Also, do you mean that you guys have a book of hours too?
[quote author=Copticandproud link=topic=13977.msg161747#msg161747 date=1354817662] What is the literal translation for Orthos? Also, do you mean that you guys have a book of hours too?
[quote author=Servos link=topic=13977.msg161750#msg161750 date=1354822189] [quote author=Copticandproud link=topic=13977.msg161747#msg161747 date=1354817662] What is the literal translation for Orthos? Also, do you mean that you guys have a book of hours too?
[quote author=Copticandproud link=topic=13977.msg161758#msg161758 date=1354829458] Do you mind sharing the text? Here is the ours http://www.agpeya.org/
How much I can see at the first glance, our hours have always only 3 psalms, and you have much more. Also, we do not read neither epistle nor Gospel on hours, and you do.
Troubles chasin me again, Breaking down my best defence, I'm looking, God, I'm looking for you Weary just won't let me rest, and fear is filling up my head. I'm longing, God I'm longing for you
But I will find you in the place I'm in, find you when I'm at my end, Find you when there's nothing left of me to offer you except for brokenness. You lift me up, you'll never leave me thirsty, When I am weak, when I am lost and searching I'll find you on my knees.
So what if sorrow shakes my faith, What if heartache still remains, I'll trust you, my god I'll trust you. 'Cas u are faithful and I will find you in the place I'm in, find you when I'm at my end, Find you when there's nothing left of me to offer you except for brokenness. (From: http://www.elyrics.net) You lift me up, you'll never leave me thirsty, When I am weak, when I am lost and searching Find you on my knees, my knees.
When my hope is gone, when the fear is strong When the pain is real, when it's hard to heal When my faith is shaken and my heart is broken and my joy is stolen, God I know that
You lift me up, you'll never leave me searching, Find you in the place I'm in, find you when I'm at my end, Find you when there's nothing left of me to offer you except for brokenness. You lift me up, you'll never leave me thirsty, When I am weak, when I am lost and searching I'll find you on my knees.
[quote author=Servos link=topic=13977.msg161760#msg161760 date=1354830537] [quote author=Copticandproud link=topic=13977.msg161758#msg161758 date=1354829458] Do you mind sharing the text? Here is the ours http://www.agpeya.org/
How much I can see at the first glance, our hours have always only 3 psalms, and you have much more. Also, we do not read neither epistle nor Gospel on hours, and you do.
Thank you so much Servos for spending time with us here. I have a few questions. I noticed the link you gave us describes the "lesser hours". Is there a "greater hours"? Is that called the "horologion"? The site also has a link to the "Midnight Office". Is this not equivalent to "tasbeha"?
While we're on the subject of music, can you describe the tones? Does the Serbian church have octoechos? Do you also call them Kurios and Plagal? Can you give us a brief description?
Dear Remnkemi, Copticandproud, Qawe... and others :D I suggest that we continue this off topic here: http://tasbeha.org/content/community/index.php/topic,13979.0.html :D I am afraid that Mnc_hnn is maybe already angry because I spam his topic :D:D:D I have the answers, just give me some time to consult the books.
Dear Mnc_hnn and others Coptic brothers and sisters, Do Copts have some pop music or hip-hop or any modern band and music group? If I searched the forum good, I find lot of Coptic music but only with religious motives. So, my question is, do we have some modern pop or rock or hip-hop or whatever Coptic bands ?
[quote author=mnc_hnn link=topic=13977.msg162044#msg162044 date=1355701732] I don't know. To me, this question is like asking me to recite pharaonic songs...no idea whatsoever
Donot you technically recite Pharaonic songs when you recite the church Coptic hymns?
[quote author=Servos link=topic=13977.msg162042#msg162042 date=1355699170] Dear Mnc_hnn and others Coptic brothers and sisters, Do Copts have some pop music or hip-hop or any modern band and music group? If I searched the forum good, I find lot of Coptic music but only with religious motives. So, my question is, do we have some modern pop or rock or hip-hop or whatever Coptic bands ?
Comments
So to start off:
Nice music. Copts singing in video?
The song says (Excuse my poor translation skills):
God is with us
He’s never let go of our hands
He is attentive of us and our problems
We are engraved on the palm of His hand (in good and bad times)
All the goodness we have comes from Him alone
Only His protection gave us rest
Problems resolved as soon as the heart calls on him
All the goodness we have comes from Him alone
Only His protection gave us rest
Whenever anyone is in trouble, they find Him.
God is with us
Nobody can think about approaching a congregation protected by Jesus
Go is with us
What can trouble someone who laid their burden on Him
God is with us
Why worry about tomorrow, He will surely take care of it
God is with us
All the past and memories witness that He is not far.
God is with us
Whatever happens, He can protect his congregation from the beasts
God is with us
With His hands our joy will arrive, so you mustn't be scared
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJBC4vtcA3I
Do you know who loves you mightily?
Do you know who loves you mightily?
Who watches over you day and night?
Who gives you abundantly,
To resist devil's power?
Do you know who gave you life?
Father, mother, a brother of yours?
And who illuminated you,
With a brilliant ray of His Spirit?
Do you know who died for us?
On Golgotha, do you know?
And who prepares,
The promised joys for you, do you know?
Do you know who loves you mightily?
You ought to know who does all that,
Who's the one that loves us so,
It is Lord from above,
It is Christ, Saviour for all!
So you too, oh, remember,
And give your heart to Him,
When you wrong Him, burst in tears,
And ask for forgiveness!
In the tear of repentance
Christ's shine shall glitter,
Put your trust in Him,
He shall open heaven to you!
Do you know who loves you mightily?
Znash li ko te lyubi silno?
Znash li ko te lyubi silno?
Ko te chuva dan i noch?
Ko ti daye izobilno,
Da odolish vragu moch?
Znash li ko ti zhivot dao?
Oca, mayku, brata tvog?
I ko te je obasyao,
Svetlim zrakom Duha svog?
Znahs li ko ye umro za nas?
Na Golgoti, znash li to?
I radosti obechane,
Ko ti sprema znash li to?
Znash li ko te lyubi silno?
Morash znati ko to chini,
Ko to tako lyubi nas,
To ye Gospod sa visine,
To ye Hristos, svima Spas!
Zato i ti, oh, seti se,
Pa mu svoye srce day,
Kad mu skrivish, zaplachi se,
I zamoli oproshtay!
U toj suzi pokajanja,
Zablistache Hristov syay,
Imay u Nyeg' pouzdanya,
Otvoriche tebi Ray!
Serbian band 357
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJBC4vtcA3I
Do you know who loves you mightily?
Do you know who loves you mightily?
Who watches over you day and night?
Who gives you abundantly,
To resist devil's power?
Do you know who gave you life?
Father, mother, a brother of yours?
And who illuminated you,
With a brilliant ray of His Spirit?
Do you know who died for us?
On Golgotha, do you know?
And who prepares,
The promised joys for you, do you know?
Do you know who loves you mightily?
You ought to know who does all that,
Who's the one that loves us so,
It is Lord from above,
It is Christ, Saviour for all!
So you too, oh, remember,
And give your heart to Him,
When you wrong Him, burst in tears,
And ask for forgiveness!
In the tear of repentance
Christ's shine shall glitter,
Put your trust in Him,
He shall open heaven to you!
Do you know who loves you mightily?
Znash li ko te lyubi silno?
Znash li ko te lyubi silno?
Ko te chuva dan i noch?
Ko ti daye izobilno,
Da odolish vragu moch?
Znash li ko ti zhivot dao?
Oca, mayku, brata tvog?
I ko te je obasyao,
Svetlim zrakom Duha svog?
Znahs li ko ye umro za nas?
Na Golgoti, znash li to?
I radosti obechane,
Ko ti sprema znash li to?
Znash li ko te lyubi silno?
Morash znati ko to chini,
Ko to tako lyubi nas,
To ye Gospod sa visine,
To ye Hristos, svima Spas!
Zato i ti, oh, seti se,
Pa mu svoye srce day,
Kad mu skrivish, zaplachi se,
I zamoli oproshtay!
U toj suzi pokajanja,
Zablistache Hristov syay,
Imay u Nyeg' pouzdanya,
Otvoriche tebi Ray!
Servos, do you know of any Serbian Hymns that are sang in English?
Servos, do you know of any Serbian Hymns that are sang in English?
Do you mean Church hymns ?
We (Eastern Orthodox) have big diaspora in USA so there is a lot of hymns in English, but sung by Greeks, Russians, Arabs... etc.
Do you mean Serbian hymns in English? Or Eastern Orthodox hymns in English ?
:)
[quote author=Copticandproud link=topic=13977.msg161726#msg161726 date=1354741638]
Servos, do you know of any Serbian Hymns that are sang in English?
Do you mean Church hymns ?
We (Eastern Orthodox) have big diaspora in USA so there is a lot of hymns in English, but sung by Greeks, Russians, Arabs... etc.
Do you mean Serbian hymns in English? Or Eastern Orthodox hymns in English ?
:)
I meant Serbian.
I meant Serbian.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNNeQTN-uy8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNNeQTN-uy8
interesting!
[quote author=Copticandproud link=topic=13977.msg161728#msg161728 date=1354743103]
I meant Serbian.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNNeQTN-uy8
This is beautiful! In the Coptic church, we have what is called the Midnight Prasies. (tasbeha in arabic (hint the name of the website)) This is usually done before the Liturgy and after the Vespers. Do the Serbian or any other Eastern Orthodox have any equivalent to it?
[quote author=Servos link=topic=13977.msg161729#msg161729 date=1354744514]
[quote author=Copticandproud link=topic=13977.msg161728#msg161728 date=1354743103]
I meant Serbian.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNNeQTN-uy8
This is beautiful! In the Coptic church, we have what is called the Midnight Prasies. (tasbeha in arabic (hint the name of the website)) This is usually done before the Liturgy and after the Vespers. Do the Serbian or any other Eastern Orthodox have any equivalent to it?
Yes: Orthros
In the Coptic church, we have what is called the Midnight Prasies. This is usually done before the Liturgy and after the Vespers. Do the Serbian or any other Eastern Orthodox have any equivalent to it?
[quote author=qawe link=topic=13977.msg161739#msg161739 date=1354773092]
Yes: Orthros
If this is correct definition of Tasbeha: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tasbeha No, we don't have it.
Do You have after the vesper in Saturday and before Liturgy in Sunday matins (=orthros) ?
In that case Tasbeha is something different from orthros.
In Serbia (Russia, Greece...) orthros and vespers are regularly daily services regardless of Liturgy.
In Serbia and Russia we have in Saturday vigil (vesper and orthros joined) and we are coming in Sunday (in my Diocese at 9 am) and Liturgy starts immediately.
In Greece in Saturday is only vesper, and in Sunday orthros followed by Liturgy.
[quote author=Copticandproud link=topic=13977.msg161737#msg161737 date=1354762149]
In the Coptic church, we have what is called the Midnight Prasies. This is usually done before the Liturgy and after the Vespers. Do the Serbian or any other Eastern Orthodox have any equivalent to it?
[quote author=qawe link=topic=13977.msg161739#msg161739 date=1354773092]
Yes: Orthros
If this is correct definition of Tasbeha: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tasbeha No, we don't have it.
Do You have after the vesper in Saturday and before Liturgy in Sunday matins (=orthros) ?
In that case Tasbeha is something different from orthros.
In Serbia (Russia, Greece...) orthros and vespers are regularly daily services regardless of Liturgy.
In Serbia and Russia we have in Saturday vigil (vesper and orthros joined) and we are coming in Sunday (in my Diocese at 9 am) and Liturgy starts immediately.
In Greece in Saturday is only vesper, and in Sunday orthros followed by Liturgy.
Here is our usual liturgical prayers. For our case I will use the Sunday's liturgy.
It all starts saturday evening with Agpeya prayers (The Book of Hours) After that we have a set of chants that is called the Vespers Praises (evening tasbeha). Then we have the Vespers Prayers. After the Vespers Prayers, there is more prayers from the Book of Hours and then we start midnight prasies (Midnight tasbeha) The midnight tasbeha should last all night long. Then Sunday Morning we pray the first hour from the Book of Prayers and then we have Matins Prasis. After the Matins prasis, there is matins prayers. At the end, there is the liturgy.
Then Sunday Morning... we have Matins Prasis. After the Matins prasis, there is matins prayers.
This should be equivavalent to our Matins (= Orthros).
So, no, we do not have Tasbeha.
ps. First hour is in Serbia after Matins.
[quote author=Copticandproud link=topic=13977.msg161745#msg161745 date=1354803924]
Then Sunday Morning... we have Matins Prasis. After the Matins prasis, there is matins prayers.
This should be equivavalent to our Matins (= Orthros).
So, no, we do not have Tasbeha.
ps. First hour is in Serbia after Matins.
What is the literal translation for Orthos? Also, do you mean that you guys have a book of hours too?
What is the literal translation for Orthos? Also, do you mean that you guys have a book of hours too?
Orthros = Matins
Yes, we have 1st, 3rd, 6th and 9th hour.
[quote author=Copticandproud link=topic=13977.msg161747#msg161747 date=1354817662]
What is the literal translation for Orthos? Also, do you mean that you guys have a book of hours too?
Orthros = Matins
Yes, we have 1st, 3rd, 6th and 9th hour.
Do you mind sharing the text? Here is the ours http://www.agpeya.org/
Do you mind sharing the text? Here is the ours http://www.agpeya.org/
How much I can see at the first glance, our hours have always only 3 psalms, and you have much more.
Also, we do not read neither epistle nor Gospel on hours, and you do.
Here is the text we use for hours:
http://www.anastasis.org.uk/lesser_hours.htm
Troubles chasin me again,
Breaking down my best defence,
I'm looking, God, I'm looking for you
Weary just won't let me rest, and fear is filling up my head.
I'm longing, God I'm longing for you
But I will find you in the place I'm in, find you when I'm at my end,
Find you when there's nothing left of me to offer you except for brokenness.
You lift me up, you'll never leave me thirsty,
When I am weak, when I am lost and searching
I'll find you on my knees.
So what if sorrow shakes my faith,
What if heartache still remains,
I'll trust you, my god I'll trust you.
'Cas u are faithful and
I will find you in the place I'm in, find you when I'm at my end,
Find you when there's nothing left of me to offer you except for brokenness.
(From: http://www.elyrics.net)
You lift me up, you'll never leave me thirsty,
When I am weak, when I am lost and searching
Find you on my knees, my knees.
When my hope is gone, when the fear is strong
When the pain is real, when it's hard to heal
When my faith is shaken and my heart is broken and my joy is stolen, God I know that
You lift me up, you'll never leave me searching,
Find you in the place I'm in, find you when I'm at my end,
Find you when there's nothing left of me to offer you except for brokenness.
You lift me up, you'll never leave me thirsty,
When I am weak, when I am lost and searching
I'll find you on my knees.
[quote author=Copticandproud link=topic=13977.msg161758#msg161758 date=1354829458]
Do you mind sharing the text? Here is the ours http://www.agpeya.org/
How much I can see at the first glance, our hours have always only 3 psalms, and you have much more.
Also, we do not read neither epistle nor Gospel on hours, and you do.
Here is the text we use for hours:
http://www.anastasis.org.uk/lesser_hours.htm
Thank you so much Servos for spending time with us here. I have a few questions.
I noticed the link you gave us describes the "lesser hours". Is there a "greater hours"? Is that called the "horologion"? The site also has a link to the "Midnight Office". Is this not equivalent to "tasbeha"?
While we're on the subject of music, can you describe the tones? Does the Serbian church have octoechos? Do you also call them Kurios and Plagal? Can you give us a brief description?
Thanks.
Dear Remnkemi, Copticandproud, Qawe... and others :D
I suggest that we continue this off topic here:
http://tasbeha.org/content/community/index.php/topic,13979.0.html
:D
I am afraid that Mnc_hnn is maybe already angry because I spam his topic :D :D :D
I have the answers, just give me some time to consult the books.
Do Copts have some pop music or hip-hop or any modern band and music group?
If I searched the forum good, I find lot of Coptic music but only with religious motives.
So, my question is, do we have some modern pop or rock or hip-hop or whatever Coptic bands ?
I don't know. To me, this question is like asking me to recite pharaonic songs...no idea whatsoever
Donot you technically recite Pharaonic songs when you recite the church Coptic hymns?
Pharaohs were BC...Christianity is more recent?
I meant that some of the Coptic tunes and the Coptic language itself, supposedly, have their origins from Pharaonic tunes and language...
Dear Mnc_hnn and others Coptic brothers and sisters,
Do Copts have some pop music or hip-hop or any modern band and music group?
If I searched the forum good, I find lot of Coptic music but only with religious motives.
So, my question is, do we have some modern pop or rock or hip-hop or whatever Coptic bands ?
:o
:o
Why are you shocked ? Did I asked something wrong ?