How to Learn Coptic.....

Fadyna33

Hi[center]Learning Coptic[/center]
Coptic language is composed of 32 letters:
7 Demotiqes (the last 7) and 25 Greek.
Also it has 7 vowels and 24 constant plus no. 6.
All the Letters are:

[coptic]A B G D E ^ Z Y: I K L M N X O P R C T U V < W S F Q H J {}[/coptic]
sry one letter i can't show

THEIR NAMES:
Alfa, beta, gamma, delta, ee, soo, Zita, Eita, Thita, Youta, Kaba, lolla, mi, ni, Exy, O (Omicron), pi, Ro, sima, tav, ebselon, ve, ke, ebsi, omega, shay, Fay, khay, Hori, Ganja, Tchima, ti.
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nardin

hay
good work Fadyna33
i learnt sumfing new keep it up ;)

Fadyna33

THE LETTERS
Aa Alfa =A as in Bar. Ex: Anok = I (Subject) spells Anok.

[coptic]Ran[/coptic] = name [coptic]R[/coptic] = R [coptic]n[/coptic] =N

Can u tell me words u know contain ALFA [coptic]A[/coptic] (used in the church) ???
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Shamas

:) it is very easy amen starts with alfa.

mike_henain

[tt]Abba, Bashois, arshiangelos, Markos, Alleluia[/tt]

Unknown

so i would say Anok Ran SMS?
also, i beleive theres some websites in the link section of this website where u can see the letters that Fadyna33 is talking about
BTW... GREAT JOB! lol

marys

the extent of my coptic linguistics.
"ash pe pekran?" what is your name?

Paulh

yep..and side note on that one.

[coptic]Pe[/coptic] is femenine for "your"

[coptic]Pek[/coptic] is masculine for "your"

[coptic]As[/coptic] goes for both male and female, and it simply means "what?" or "what is.."

[coptic]Ran[/coptic] simply means "name".

The sentence that mary wrote is

[coptic]As pe pekran[/coptic]

In this case, she is talking to a male. Your probably wondering why its a male since the first [coptic]pe[/coptic] is femenine. actually, the first [coptic]pe[/coptic] is not a prefix, its simply a copula, or a linking verb, in simple nominal sentences.

So if your speaking to a woman, you would say

[coptic]As pe peran[/coptic].

The prefixes are usually what decide if your talking to a male or female.


side note: i'm sorry if this is a little confusing. um, i no its really hard to try to learn how to read and how to understand the meaning of coptic words all at the same time. Do you guys want to just stick to learning how to read coptic first, and then after that's accomplished, you can go into understanding the meanings. its just an idea if you guys think that this is hard at all. anyway, God bless you guys, and I think that this is a great service, keep it up.

Paulh

by the way, here is the link for the coptic alphabet on the site with pronounciations for each letter.

Try some practice with yourself and take any book that has coptic words in it, and substiture the letters using the list on this link, and see if you can pronounce a few of them.

http://www.copticchurch.net/coptic_fonts/alphabet.html

anyway, sorry bout wasting a post. take care

George Mekhaiel

Fadyna33 I do think that you missed the letter epsi, wich comes after "key" and before the light "o"

George Mekhaiel

George Mekhaiel

Also Paulh,

As far as the whole pekran example goes....well,

These are called Definite Articles:

There is for male [coptic]pi `p `v[/coptic]
and for female [coptic]] `t `;[/coptic]
[coptic]pi[/coptic] and [coptic]][/coptic] can be used in any case.
[coptic]`v[/coptic] and [coptic]`;[/coptic] can only be used before the 7 letters of [coptic]n o r l a m b i[/coptic]
and [coptic]`t[/coptic] and [coptic]`p[/coptic] can be used before any leters but the 7 letters of [coptic] n o r l a m b i[/coptic]

I hope that also helps.
George Mekhaiel

Also, please correct me if I may be a little off, it's been a while since I have used the good old grammer.

Paulh

[quote author=George Mekhaiel link=board=4;threadid=320;start=0#msg3291 date=1086758834]
[coptic]`v[/coptic] and [coptic]`;[/coptic] can only be used before the 7 letters of [coptic]n o r l a m b i[/coptic]
and [coptic]`t[/coptic] and [coptic]`p[/coptic] can be used before any leters but the 7 letters of [coptic] n o r l a m b i[/coptic]


Hey George,

well, what about a word like [coptic]Polic[/coptic] (which means city by the way). The [coptic]P[/coptic] comes before an [coptic]O[/coptic].

and also, you said that [coptic]V[/coptic] and [coptic]P[/coptic] can only be used before those 7 letters, but what about a word like [coptic]`Tve[/coptic], (which means Heaven) or [coptic]Veq [/coptic] (which means watermelon).

how do those rules apply to this or is there an exception?
and sorry to bug you about this, but i'm really interested to know what source you got this from. Thanks a lot, and God bless,

George Mekhaiel

There are two letter exeptions to this rule, and I will find out what they are and post them on Saturday or Sunday.

Sorry for the confussion :-\

Fadyna33

[quote author=Paulh link=board=4;threadid=320;start=0#msg3288 date=1086756796]
[coptic]Pe[/coptic] is femenine for "your"

[coptic]Pek[/coptic] is masculine for "your"


hi
I'm sorry Paulh but i've read that

[coptic]Pe[/coptic] is like verb (to be) it's equal to ( Is ) it's for masculine

[coptic]Te[/coptic] is the same but for femenine

[coptic]Ne[/coptic] equals ( are )

[coptic]Pek[/coptic] is equal to ( your )

so the sentence is "What is your name?"


Sorry i'm late i'll continue tomorrow
Pray 4 me.

Fadyna33

hi

[coptic]Bb[/coptic] Beta (Veta)
1. [coptic]B[/coptic]=V if it is put before a vowel
Ex. [coptic]Bw [/coptic] ; Voo =Tree [coptic]Bwk [/coptic] ; Vook =servant
[coptic]Bal[/coptic] ; Val =Eye [coptic]Beri[/coptic] ;Veri =new

2. [coptic]B[/coptic]=B in any other case
Ex. [coptic]Hwb[/coptic] ;hoob = job (work)
[coptic]Ouyb[/coptic] ; ’oiib =priest [coptic]Noub[/coptic] ; no’ob =gold
[coptic]Iakwb[/coptic] ; yakoob =Jakob

To be continued

Pray 4 me .

Paulh

fadyna,
your absolutely correct, i just checked my "sources" [;D] and ur 100% right. Sorry about the mistake, and i'll be sure to make sure i know what i'm sayin before i say it next time.

ps. something tells me that we both have the same coptic-english dictionary.

Take care,

Fadyna33

hi

Gg Ghamma ( Gamma)
1. [coptic]G[/coptic]=G as in (Goal - Gun)not as in (George)
if put before on of ([coptic]e y I u[/coptic])
Ex. [coptic]Agioc[/coptic] =Saint [coptic]Gy[/coptic] =earth
2. [coptic]G[/coptic] =N if it is put before one of ( [coptic]g k , x[/coptic] )
Ex. [coptic]Aggeloc [/coptic] => Angelos = Angel
[coptic]Cvigx[/coptic] => Sphinx
3. [coptic]G[/coptic] =Gh any other case
Ex. [coptic]Agapy[/coptic] => Aghapi = Love
[coptic]Logoc[/coptic] => Loghos = Word
To be continued

ps. i'm sry i have no coptic dictionary but i have i book named [coptic]Caji Neman[/coptic]

mike_henain

Thanks for your effort fadyna33 ;D, I'm learning COPTIC! AWSOME!

Fadyna33

hi
the next letter is :
[coptic]Dd [/coptic] Delta (Thelta)
1. [coptic]D[/coptic] =D in names
Ex. [coptic]Dauid[/coptic] = David
[coptic]Adam[/coptic] = Adam
2. [coptic]D[/coptic]= Th ( as in THE not THEATRE)
in any other word
Ex. [coptic]Dwron[/coptic] => Thooron = Gift
[coptic]Diakwn[/coptic] = Diakon
To be continued

I'm really sorry i'm doing it soooo slowly but REALLY i'm tooooo Busy.

Pray for me

Fadyna33

hi all

[coptic]Ee[/coptic] Ai
Pronounces as Ai
Ex.[coptic] E;ouab[/coptic] => ethoab = Saint

[coptic]^[/coptic] soo
it’s only means no. 6 in coptic.

[coptic]Zz[/coptic] Zita
[coptic]Z [/coptic] = Z
Ex. [coptic]Anzyb[/coptic] => anzib = school

[coptic]Yy [/coptic] Eita
[coptic]Y[/coptic] = ee
Ex. [coptic]Pinyb[/coptic] => Pineeb = the master
[coptic]Pi`slyl[/coptic] => Pieshleel = the prayer

[coptic]:;[/coptic] Thita
1.[coptic] : [/coptic] = T if it came after ([coptic]c[/coptic] , [coptic]s[/coptic])
Ex. [coptic]`S;yn[/coptic] => EshTeen = Shirt
2.[coptic] : [/coptic] = Th ( as in theatre) in any other case
Ex. [coptic]Dia;yky[/coptic] => thiatheekee = Promis

[coptic]Ii [/coptic] Youta
[coptic]I[/coptic] = I
Ex. [coptic]`Viwt[/coptic] => Efiwt = the father
[coptic]Iycouc [/coptic] => Ieesoos = Jesus

[coptic]Kk [/coptic] Kab
[coptic]K [/coptic] = K
Ex. [coptic]Kac[/coptic] => Kas = bones
[coptic]Kas[/coptic] => Kash = Pen

[coptic]Ll [/coptic] lolla
[coptic]L [/coptic] = L
Ex. [coptic]Lac[/coptic] => Las = tongue
[coptic]`Slyl[/coptic] => shleel = prayer

[coptic]Mm [/coptic] Mi
[coptic]M[/coptic] = M
Ex. [coptic]Mwit[/coptic] => Moit = Way
[coptic]Masj[/coptic] => Mashg = Ear

[coptic]Nn[/coptic] Ni
[coptic]N [/coptic] = N
Ex. [coptic]Nis] [/coptic] => Nishti = Great
[coptic]Nobi [/coptic] => Novi = Sin

[coptic]Xx[/coptic] Exy
[coptic]X [/coptic] = X
Ex.[coptic] Carx [/coptic] => Sarx = Body
[coptic]Nehci [/coptic] => Nehsi = Wakes up

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Pray for me.

mastersam12

This is very good. I really wish that fadnya and paulh, you guys can orginize this into lessons it would be very helpful and i am grateful for ur help

ramimoheb

Hi Everyone, I know this thread has not been read in a couple of months but I know of a good website for learning the basics of the Coptic Language!

here is the link:
http://www.avarewase.org/copt_rd/coptic/cop_all.htm

I hope that will help someone .. :)