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Orthodox Translation of LXX in Modern English
I mentioned this already on another thread, but thought I'd post it here so everyone would be aware of it.
The complete Orthodox Study Bible will be released February 2008. You can already pre-order a copy at a 20% discount (45% for bulk-buyers, in case your church bookstore would be interested).
What makes this publication so important is not that it contains study notes (while helpful, far better Orthodox commentaries can be found elsewhere), but that it contains a complete translation of the Septuagint (the Orthodox Old Testament) into the English language, making it a must have for any English-speaking Orthodox Christian.
The complete Orthodox Study Bible will be released February 2008. You can already pre-order a copy at a 20% discount (45% for bulk-buyers, in case your church bookstore would be interested).
What makes this publication so important is not that it contains study notes (while helpful, far better Orthodox commentaries can be found elsewhere), but that it contains a complete translation of the Septuagint (the Orthodox Old Testament) into the English language, making it a must have for any English-speaking Orthodox Christian.
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personally i just wait for the psalms
There is already an excellent translation of the LXX Psalms by the Holy Transfiguration Monastery called The Psalter According to the Seventy. It's in old English though (personally I perfer old English for liturgical use, but I know many dislike it).
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personally i just wait for the psalms
There is already an excellent translation of the LXX Psalms by the Holy Transfiguration Monastery called The Psalter According to the Seventy. It's in old English though (personally I perfer old English for liturgical use, but I know many dislike it).
well i think i know about that one......but my only concern is what follows the coptic and arabic in our katameros in church...which is also Septuagint.
Could one of you guys list the septuagant books (or the books that were taken out by the protestants) i am aware of a couple but not all of them.
I hope I haven't left anything out:
Genesis
Exodus
Leviticus
Numbers
Deuteronomy
Joshua
Judges
Ruth
I Kingdoms (1 Samuel)
2 Kingdoms (2 Samuel)
3 Kingdoms (1 Kings)
4 Kingdoms (2 Kings)
1 Chronicles
2 Chronicles
1 Esdras
2 Esdras (Ezra and Nehemiah)
Tobit
Judith
Esther
1 Maccabees
2 Maccabees
3 Maccabees
4 Maccabees*
Psalms (including Psalm 151)
Job
Proverbs of Solomon
Ecclasiastes
Song of Songs
Wisdom of Solomon
Prayer of Manasseh
Wisdom of Sirach
Hosea
Amos
Micha
Joel
Obadiah
Jonah
Nahum
Habakkuk
Zephaniah
Haggai
Zechariah
Malachi
Isaiah
Jeremiah
Baruch
Epistle of Jeremiah
Lamentations of Jeremiah
Ezekiel
Daniel (including Song of the Three Children, Susanna, Bel and the Serpent).
*The 4th Book of Maccabees is not properly part of the Bible, but rather appears in the appendix to the Greek version, being regarded as edifying reading.
1 Esdras
2 Esdras (Ezra and Nehemiah)
Tobit
Judith
1 Maccabees
2 Maccabees
3 Maccabees
4 Maccabees*
Psalms (including Psalm 151)
Wisdom of Solomon
Prayer of Manasseh
Wisdom of Sirach
Baruch
Epistle of Jeremiah
Daniel (including Song of the Three Children, Susanna, Bel and the Serpent).
*The 4th Book of Maccabees is not properly part of the Bible, but rather appears in the appendix to the Greek version, being regarded as edifying reading.
oh...am dafinitlly using these as a source.....
After reading the sample pages and the articles it is clear the Lord has blessed (and will), supported and protected this project and all who contributed to make it ready for large distribution.
I expect it will be fought some way or the other, but with the Lord's Grace this holy project will overcome and will fill its mission. Keep up all the good efforts you blessed people for the Glory of His Name more and more each day. God bless 2008 for many wish to come back to You.
Thank you again Orthodox11 it's really nice to know, I'll spread the news around here.
GBU
pray for me
joe
Isn't this, though, a bit of a heretical translation, considering that they are Eastern Orthodox and we are Oriental Orthodox?
well i think you should concentrate more on the bible part rather than the commentaries. that's how i would look at it.
If you would allow me to interject here for a moment, I would like to say just a few words. The translation is no where near heretical; it is important to realize that it has been determined by both Oriental and Eastern Orthodox churches that the Christological differences that were once believed to have existed have been resolved, though not fully acknowledged by all of the Churches on both sides. As OrthodoxWiki states: Since the Holy Synods of both the Coptic Orthodox Church and the Greek Orthodox Patriarchate of Alexandria and all Africa have already accepted the outcome of the official dialogue on Christology between the Orthodox Church and the Oriental Orthodox Churches, including the two official agreements: the first on Christology signed in June 1989 in Egypt and the second also on Christology and on the lifting of anathemas and restoration of full communion signed in Geneva 1990, in which it is stated that "In the light of our agreed statement on Christology..., we have now clearly understood that both families have always loyally maintained the same authentic Orthodox Christological faith, and the unbroken continuity of Apostolic tradition".
With this in mind, to say that their translation is heretical is far from the truth. The Fathers that have been quoted within this translation are very reliable and acknowledged Fathers. For those few Fathers that may appear that are not recognized by the Oriental Orthodox Church in the strict sense, I encourage you to read what they say and see if you can find a difference between their belief and our own. In summation, the Biblical translation is not heretical in any sense, and the commentaries are there for your guidance. I encourage us all to read both the Bible as well as the commentaries and learn as much as we can, as this is the Word of God and the inspiration of the Holy Spirit through the Church Fathers. The commentaries do not go into detail, at any rate, and a more comprehensive and in-depth look at any particular verse in the Bible would require more resources to be used. As such, I am posting the link for the Ante-Nicene, Nicene, and Post-Nicene Fathers, available for free online: http://www.ccel.org/fathers.html. I know that the series has come up in some other discussions, and that people feel reserved in buying it as it costs a relatively large amount of money. I hope the link will encourage us all to go and learn more both about the Bible as well as our Church.
Pray for me,
childoforthodoxy
You must read above ^^.
I have asked the same question several times to those who are far more advanced in knowledge than I am in the topics of Orthodoxy. The resounding answer is often that the problem that we face now is more political than it is theological. Some churches are not ready, to my limited knowledge and understanding, to remove some of the anathemas that have were put into place throughout history. I will say here that I apologize if this is not the case, but this is the information that I have collected over some time. The anathemas themselves, it seems, are politically based themselves and not theologically based. As such, it will only take much prayer and time, along with the guidance of the Holy Spirit to allow for the Oriental and Eastern Orthodox churches to merge again with one another. Though there has been much progress on the issue in the last 50 or so years, it may still be a significant amount of time until we are brought together in full communion with one another. For more information on the topic, I recommend that we read the statements that were put forth by both the Oriental and Eastern Orthodox Churches: http://www.orthodoxunity.org/statements.html. These are official documents and, hopefully, will educate us towards what we are progressing towards with the guidance of the Holy Spirit in the Orthodox Churches.
The only solution at this point, as it always has been and stands to be the case for all of the problems we face here in the temporal world, is to pray. Pray for each other as well as for the Church as a whole. Though I mentioned it before, I do encourage each and every one of us to go and read the writings of the Church Fathers. If a certain topic arises that you encounter that does not seem to be Orthodox in your own mindset, address a person who is knowledgeable in Orthodoxy about it, whether they be a well-educated and reliable servant at church, a priest or a bishop. I have noticed that it is often the case that people sit around and discuss whether something is Orthodox or not without having any sources or supplementary materials to confirm their position. Therefore, it is important to read the Fathers and rely on their inspired knowledge rather than on our own weak minds.
Pray for my weakness,
childoforthodoxy