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what if i do not want to tell abouna a sin
if i do not want to confess to acouple of sins to abouna is there any other way to confess?
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No, there are no other ways to confess.
Just confess it and be done! No need to keep waste on your spirit.
Matthew
part of confession is humiliation... humiliate yourself in front of a human now, and you wont in front of God. back in the days they used to confess in front of the whole church, saint Moses the black, confessed in front of many.
and when a person discusses confession, one should not stop himself of thinking about St. Augustine, who revealed his sins to people for hundreds of years!
you can overcome the devil by humbling yourself!
are you baptized now? because confession should be practiced when you are in the faith!
akhdna el barka... neshkor allah!
nakhod el barak... so thank God!
Hopefully i will have the courage to confess soon.
if u dont want to tell him because he sees u so often and u will think that he will think less of you,,,, then always remeber that out of all people around you, ur FOC is the only person who will never get ur confession into the general life... btw once u confess the sin,the priest is not allowed to bring it up again... coz imitating Jesus he has to always remember that once u confess ur sin it is "forgiven and forgotten"
or if u dunt want to tell him because whatever ur doing is too risky and u think he might get involved (telling ur parents and so on..), then NO!! HE WILL NEVER DO THAT even if he's life is based on... he might try to convince you but he'll never do it hemself without asking for ur permission...
and finally just remember that once u go into that room for confession, ur not speaking to ur abouna but ur speaking to Jesus himself, and since he already knows whatever u'v done, then why not get the forgiveness belmarra!!!
and in the old testament, the person to confess was to speak his/her sins to the priest, while he has his hand on the sacrifice! as commanded by God, thus making confession a mystery that was passed down to us by God Himself!
it is NEEDED!!!
akhdna el baraka... neshkor allah
The idea of confession to an abouna is really not that comforting to me, maybe because I've never experienced it. I'm Assyrian, so in our church we never do confession. I think if you have a sin that you don't feel comfortable sharing with abouna, then don't say anything at all. You can sit in church or in your room and confess to GOD. Abouna can only hear what your sin is, but God can hear and see what your sin was. If you believe in God and believe that he is a forgiving God, than sit and speak about it, he’s always listening. One more thing, please people of this forum, don't over analyze this response, I'm entitled to speak my mind...please respect that...thank you.
Matthew 16:18 - "And I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven, and whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven."
Please explain this verse according to what your denomination teaches. Thanks!
Would you confess to an abouna, a Priest of God who was given the authority from God, NOW and be forgiven, or in front of EVERYONE on Judgement Day?
You choose!
Nesto0129, i take it that your church is NOT Orthodox.....
You don't have to go into details when confessing. The most important thing though is that you have truly repented. Confession without repentance is useless.
i would say that you're supposed to say what you would say to Jesus as if He was there, though HE DOES come there.
If you consciously remember something and refuse to confess it, it is on your hands. You are responsible for it.
No, there are no other ways to confess.
Just confess it and be done! No need to keep waste on your spirit.
I totally agree.
In fact, what am I saying, there is no agreement on this issue. Severus is stating a fact.
Look, remember the story of Saphira and her husband?? They kept a sin in their hearts and they didn't want to confess it. They had good intentions and wanted to still give alms to the Church; yet, more important than their alms (their generosity) was the state of their heart, the KNOWINGLY lied to the apostles (the priests) and to the Holy Spirit. They didnt want to admit that they were hiding something. They gave the apostles the impression that they were giving ALL their money to God. Whereas in fact, they kept a part of it for themselves. Had they said "we will only give a certain amount, but not all" - this would have been very much welcomed; but they lied.
I think we do that in confession: We tell abouna the good stuff (or not so bad stuff) and in our hearts, we don't say the real thing that God is looking for.
Imagine you've just insulted your best friend badly; and stolen from him $10,000. You meet him again in a party by luck a few days afterwards. You discuss everything under the sun with him: The weather, the good times you spent, share a few jokes; but YOU NEVER raise the most important stuff: that you offended him and stole his money.
He's just sitting there listening to you talk.. and it seems for an instant that you are just talking to yourself. Sure, God's there listening to you; but He's listening to you talk to yourself.
Confession has to be a "Im Sorry. I've sinned" attitude, otherwise, you are just talking to yourself.
What if there is no priest around where someone lives and you want to confess?
I think you could just ask God to forgive you and confess to Him and all will be well. I don't know... just what I think.
well, you can confess by phone when there's no priest nearby...
to add to that......you confess by phone JUST FOR THAT EXCEPTION.....and the next time you take communion, you tell the priest that you confessed by phone for this reason, and probably confess again while that is happening, and he will ABSOLVE YOU. the idea is not to only confess with lips, but also to be absolved by a priest......which is the prayer that a priest prays upon those who confess with the cross upon there heads.
2. What are the chances that you would live in an area where there are no Catholic or Eastern Orthodox priests? These can be an alternative IF AND ONLY IF THERE ARE NO COPTIC PRIESTS AVAILABLE.
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What are the chances that you would live in an area where there are no Catholic or Eastern Orthodox priests? These can be an alternative IF AND ONLY IF THERE ARE NO COPTIC PRIESTS AVAILABLE.
so we can confess to Catholic priests? or Eastern Orthodox priests? hmmm....
thanks for the replies. i see...
[quote author=Severus link=topic=7211.msg95736#msg95736 date=1224196686]
What are the chances that you would live in an area where there are no Catholic or Eastern Orthodox priests? These can be an alternative IF AND ONLY IF THERE ARE NO COPTIC PRIESTS AVAILABLE.
so we can confess to Catholic priests? or Eastern Orthodox priests? hmmm....
With the permession of yourown father that you cannot physiclly go to him.
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thanks for the replies. i see...
[quote author=Severus link=topic=7211.msg95736#msg95736 date=1224196686]
What are the chances that you would live in an area where there are no Catholic or Eastern Orthodox priests? These can be an alternative IF AND ONLY IF THERE ARE NO COPTIC PRIESTS AVAILABLE.
so we can confess to Catholic priests? or Eastern Orthodox priests? hmmm....
With the permession of yourown father that you cannot physiclly go to him.
Like I said, in cases where there is absolutely no other choice. I have stated that clearly.
akhdna el baraka... neshkora allah!
1. Minagir is right about that. You can't confess on the phone for the sake of feeling less embarrassed...doesn't work like that.
2. What are the chances that you would live in an area where there are no Catholic or Eastern Orthodox priests? These can be an alternative IF AND ONLY IF THERE ARE NO COPTIC PRIESTS AVAILABLE.
Yes, that's true. You cannot confess on the phone for the intent of just feeling less embarassed. Not at all. That goes against the entire reasoning of confession. It is to feel embarassed. To add a sense of reality to what is going on in your heart. That's what needs to come out.
But - i do think the Church allows confession on the phone if there's no way for you to see the priest - but I think someone needs to confirm this.
I have a question:
What if there is no priest around where someone lives and you want to confess?
I think you could just ask God to forgive you and confess to Him and all will be well. I don't know... just what I think.
that wouldnt make much sense, because that would mean they dont go to church?
They would just confess when they go to church, before/after the mass.
[quote author=Severus link=topic=7211.msg95736#msg95736 date=1224196686]
1. Minagir is right about that. You can't confess on the phone for the sake of feeling less embarrassed...doesn't work like that.
2. What are the chances that you would live in an area where there are no Catholic or Eastern Orthodox priests? These can be an alternative IF AND ONLY IF THERE ARE NO COPTIC PRIESTS AVAILABLE.
Yes, that's true. You cannot confess on the phone for the intent of just feeling less embarassed. Not at all. That goes against the entire reasoning of confession. It is to feel embarassed. To add a sense of reality to what is going on in your heart. That's what needs to come out.
But - i do think the Church allows confession on the phone if there's no way for you to see the priest - but I think someone needs to confirm this.
I can confirm this, it's what I do...
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[quote author=Severus link=topic=7211.msg95736#msg95736 date=1224196686]
1. Minagir is right about that. You can't confess on the phone for the sake of feeling less embarrassed...doesn't work like that.
2. What are the chances that you would live in an area where there are no Catholic or Eastern Orthodox priests? These can be an alternative IF AND ONLY IF THERE ARE NO COPTIC PRIESTS AVAILABLE.
Yes, that's true. You cannot confess on the phone for the intent of just feeling less embarassed. Not at all. That goes against the entire reasoning of confession. It is to feel embarassed. To add a sense of reality to what is going on in your heart. That's what needs to come out.
But - i do think the Church allows confession on the phone if there's no way for you to see the priest - but I think someone needs to confirm this.
I can confirm this, it's what I do...
Yes, it was what I had to do once. In fact, I just want to make something clear:
It is actually much harder to confess on the phone than face to face. Its probably more embarassing and less effective (from my experience).
true, but when there's no other way, there's no other way...
Godislove,
You are seriously doing well. We both lived in the same countries, and you are doing much better than me.
It's not easy. I think God will reward you for your steadfastness in trying to confess this way.