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Of course it is a lie
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I wanted to say a little about my very strong sense that everything we do is liturgical, and that we cannot say that this is liturgy and this is not, as if it gives us permission to step outside the integrity of the spiritual Tradition. http://www…
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I do know all the facts. I do know the full story.
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The proper response at this time is prayer for the thankfully few people caught up in this, and the wider number of people who are now confused. But I will say again, this was not caused by the Coptic Orthodox Church and it does not affect the witn…
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Kahan, you are rude and speaking from great ignorance. I can forgive both but it was such passive-aggressive attitudes that led me to leave Tasbeha in the first place and do not encourage me to stay, beyond this thread. You have the advantage over m…
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The EO are not under any anathema. The Holy Synod has confessed that they have the same faith that we have.
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I have known about 17 priests in my time in the BOC. But 2 are left and are remaining with Metropolitan Seraphim. He seems to intend to continue as the BOC, with these 2 priests. I see no present evidence that he will link up with other similar smal…
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To leave the communion of the Orthodox Church is to cease to be Orthodox. We share a life, not just certain teachings. A single bishop cannot say that he will break communion, leave the commitments he has made, and set up a new church while remainin…
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You have not understood the situation, and that is understandable. But please do not keep on proposing things that are not true and are based on supposition. Abba Seraphim has left the Orthodox Church with two priests at present and about 30 people.…
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The British Orthodox became canonically Orthodox only when they united with the Coptic Orthodox Church. To separate from Orthodoxy and to explicitly adopt a status that existed before becoming canonically Orthodox is to cease to be Orthodox.
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With all due respect, do you think you know more about this situation than I do? The BOC has returned to its non Orthodox status in which it existed before 1994.
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The BOC is not part of the Orthodox communion anymore. I have just said that and the statement says that. Did you ever have communion in a BOC Church before it left Orthodoxy?
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The reason why this has happened are not really relevant. The announcement says clearly that the BOC is no longer part of the Coptic Orthodox Church and is no longer in communion with any of the Orthodox Churches. I am not sure that any here on tasb…
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Cyril, it is not mission. It is pastoral support for immigrant communities and their children. That is not a bad thing although we are all moving further away from a proper Orthodox ecclesiology in the West.
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The British Orthodox Church was received entirely as an Orthodox Church, and our bishop was elevated to the rank of Metropolitan not consecrated as a bishop. Losing touch with people is not the same as losing Apostolic Succession.
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Mission is not the Liturgy. It never has been and never should be. Mission begins with others not with ourselves.
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I think the difference is that being in contact with many hundreds of Coptic Orthodox around the world I did not realise that there was a true missionary movement slowly developing in Egypt over only the last 5 years. I have never seen such commitme…
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Dear Remnkemi Thank you for your post. As a priest of the Coptic Orthodox Church, under the authority and care of a Coptic Orthodox Metropolitan those things which I engage in are naturally under the 'affiliation' of the Coptic Orthodox Church. I…
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Ioannes, I think we need to not make sweeping generalisations because it is not fair to condemn an entire community for the sake of the behaviour of a few in this place or that place. In my own experience I have visited EO churches where I have bee…
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I don't know them all. But you have discovered that St Severus teaches error, a fact that had escaped the whole Church previously, therefore it may be that some of the other Churches use a rite which does not agree in all statements with those you t…
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The prayers within the Oriental Orthodox Church are different. Are all authoritative? They are all the prayers of the Church being prayed by the Fathers.
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The Liturgical prayers and the sacraments have different texts in the different Orthodox Churches. Which should be followed as authoritative? St Severus does not at all believe in Original Sin as Augustine describes it. Therefore if you think you …
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To remind you, you said... There Psalmody, in particular, does contain grammatical, linguistic and sometimes dogmatic errors (especially the new additions of Kiahk). So you are appearing to say that the liturgical texts contain dogmatic errors a…
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Well I guess that I will leave others to discuss this with you. I don't know what to say if you think that St Severus teaches error.
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This surely contradicts what you have said 5 minutes ago... If those writings are in conflict with the liturgical prayers, then the liturgical prayers take precedence. Otherwise, the Church would be praying wrong, her faith is wrong, her rituals w…
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Surely it is not wise to base anything on your own understanding? For myself, I accept everything that St Severus says as my spiritual father and if I have thought differently then I correct myself by his teachings.
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It must surely depend on YOUR interpretation of what the Liturgical prayers teach. If I thought that St Cyril or St Severus contradicted the prayers of the Church then I would not say that they were wrong but that I had not understood the prayers o…
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Dear Remnkemi God bless you for your kind and understanding answer. I wil certainly modify the LSOCS website to show those bishops, from the Coptic Orthodox Church and other Orthodox Churches who have supported and continue to support this ministry…
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I'll just say that only about 5 people have supported the School. That is from around the world and not just tasbeha of course, since I have no real idea who most tasbeha usernames are.
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Thank you for your post Hezekiel. Where should it be mentioned then? And is it not possible for people here to speak to those who are not at High School or University?