@minatasgeel you're wrong. That may be current practice but that is not the historical precedent. Read this article by abouna Peter Farrington: https://www.academia.edu/6905688/St_Timothy_Aelurus_of_Alexandria
No need for chrismation (historically speaking this is the precedence we have from St. Severus), just a confession of faith (so basically a repudiation of Chalcedon lol)
Or it could simply be relating the act of sobering up from a blackout to the act of rising from the dead. It is merely relating the process of sobering from drunkenness in wine to Christ coming back alive again from the realm of death. Plain and sim…
I think both approaches are faulty. What we should do is refrain from making any judgments and ask to genuinely understand how was Coptic music *meant* to be chanted. Not whether we are flawed or not, but how was it originally meant to be chanted? S…
That Copts were getting drunk may be a secondary reason why we fast before communion. But the universality of this tradition cannot be explained by that and needs to be explained. I am confused as to why this tradition is somehow an issue now that k…
baempi,I'm having trouble believing that only the Copts implemented a fast before communion because they were getting drunk, when every other Orthodox and even Catholic Church (where it used to be from midnight up until recently) observes a fasting …
Remenkimi,while I do agree with you, it is important to be careful while approaching holy communion and to come prepared. Christ is Love to all, and He is unchanging, but if we approach Him in negligence and unworthily (without humble repentance) we…
Dear CoptiCopa,Remnkimi hit the nail on the head when he said your issue isn't so much with the science as it is with the philosophy behind the science.
As for your comment on the Bible, I am not sure what this refuted? I do believe that Scriptures…
Just to add, these same scientific inaccuracies are present in the writings of Scripture because science was not of the concern to the writers, rather like language, it is an imperfect mode of communication for a deeper spiritual truth concerning ou…
CoptiCopa:
The line of your first post is where your definition of evolution should stop. To say that it is "unguided" or what have you is philosophical baggage that has nothing to do with science, neither does it fit Darwinian evolution. The standa…
CoptiCopa:
About your first post,
There is a difference between materialism and evolution. Materialism is the philosophy that ALL that exists is the natural world and nothing else exists beyond it (and thus whether evolution is true or not, all tha…
On Allegorical or Metaphorical...St. Gregory the Theologian for one sees the Trees as allegorical among many other fathers like St. Augustine and Master Origen.St. Gregory the Theologian, quoting Origen says this:"For who that has understanding will…
CoptiCOPA you said:
1. St Athanasius Refutes the Evolutionary Theory of His TimeThis is a common misunderstanding that anti-evolutionists have with evolutionary theory, they equate evolution with materialism. They are not the same thing, evolution i…
My problem with that is that knowledge precedes choice. You cannot choose to sin, that is separate yourself from God, without knowing that you are sinning. Otherwise what are you choosing? You cannot sin without choosing to sin, and you cannot choos…
Thanks for sharing that mrpete. That was really interesting to read!
I have struggled with that as well ShareTheLord. Is it not however theoretically possible for one to live a life without sin? If our nature does not make us automatically sin, but…
Remenkimi, the argument is not that she lived a perfect pure life WITHOUT God. That much is certain. Any life without God is sinful in its self. Its that she chose to fully live her life with God's grace. She emptied herself in humility before God t…
Wouldn't that be Christ technically?
It seems that in a relative sense, there is no greater human after Christ than her, and so compared to us she is indeed sinless (as we call Enoch and St. Bishoy perfect and the Gospel refers to Zechariah and his…
Salvation's role is not primarily in simply taking away sin. Salvation is being in union with God, for we cannot exist otherwise as humans. Humanity needs God to live and breathe.
As for not sinning taking away from her holiness, this argument doe…
As Orthodox we do not believe in original sin but ancestral sin.
I'm not asking about the immaculate conception by the way (how she was born), but whether she actually sinned.
The first full humans to exist with God's Image and Likeness were Adam and Eve (and perhaps others, which in any case is irrelevant). They were in communion with God in a Paradaisical state of Joy here on earth. When they fell, and if others, whoeve…
CopticCopa,
Here's my issue. If you are going to disagree with Evolution on Scriptural basis because you've become unable to read past the letters of Genesis to read its message, than you must also accept that the earth is flat, that the sun revolve…
Just to be clear you said we received Adam's sin because we were in his loins, this is an inadequate explanation at best, and deceiving at worst. Sin is not spread genetically, we inherit corruption because as humanity we are interconnected and made…