Hi KMariam,
Please remember that the Orthodox Church is not a "denomination" or part of *the* Church, along with the Protestant denominations, etc. The Orthodox Church is *the* Church. The Protestant denominations are not part of the Church in any…
Like Mina, I am happy to hear that H.G. Anba Angaelos will be our bishop in the Archdiocese. That said, I am disappointed that most of the areas that practice heteropraxis - that is, CCM in the Liturgy after Psalm 150, etc. - remain without a bisho…
Hello Again Haymanot abew. Let us continue our discussion.
Thank you AN for the translation which I found inconsistency.
It seems that we have reached something of an impasse concerning the translation. The translation I posted was provided by a p…
Thanks, Remnkemi, for your kind words, and also for the reminder about Pope Yousab. Well observed. Also, you asked if the Coptic Church demanded that the Eritreans present their case to them or if the two factions came of their own volition. I be…
A translation of the video haymanot posted of His Holiness Abune Antonios, which I am told is heavily edited:TRANSCRIPT IN FULL. My brothers, my spiritual children, I give thanks and glory to God for enabling me to see you. All praises be to God tha…
Part IIIYou can't have it both ways. If it was a Coptic Bishop ordained to a diocese of "Eritrea," then sure, we can do what we want... he answers to the Coptic Synod. But Abune Antonios is a Bishop who answers to the EOTC.
True, but if the Eritrea…
I hate typing on this forum. Even getting the paragraph spacing down is a pain. Anywho, onto Part II:
As for the "ecclesiastical trial" you (and I) desire, lets get real. Shall we list the number of excommunications/exiles/removals the Coptic Syno…
AN, Thanks you very much for your well thought out answer! I appreciate your time and care to respond. Please see my responses below to continue this discussion!Hi RO. I missed you, man! I'm happy to carry on this discussion, though you know how I…
Now, haymanotabew Part II
(Mods, note that I am doing this as a labor of love for the benefit of the faithful, but carrying on a lengthy discussion like this given the clunkiness of this forum is a arduous task indeed! Pray for my weak self!)
Okay,…
Now, haymanotabew,
So far there is no indication pointing to suggest the exact term " Patriarch " is used or his exact rule stated during the recent public announcements by the office of the Synods.
One thing is sure, his name has been mentioned ins…
So, I tried to email haymanotabew at an email address he provided, but it kept bouncing back.
Despite the limitations of this forum, I will do my best to carry on the discussion here, starting with ReturnOrthodoxy's post and then haymanotabew's.
Bef…
This is the issue with the pro-government faction. They link to all kinds of videos and even written articles in Tigrinya as if this is helpful to the wider world, and then complain when the side they characterize as "Tehadiso" has better relations…
RO, there are some major differences between the two situations you are describing - the Ethiopian and the Eritrean - but I will not get into it here, as I said, because of the limitations of the format here. You have my email if you want to discus…
P.S. - Any discussions as to an alternative venue would be appreciated. Alternatively, if we continue by email, I will share the contents with you with Haymanotabew's consent.
Hi mabsoota. I miss you. So nice to hear from you again. Thanks for your kind words.Hi Rem. It is always nice to hear from you too. Haymanotabew and I are presently trying to figure out an alternative venue of public communication.
I apologize…
Hello Haymanote Abew,Thank you for your in depth answer. I agree with some of the points you have raised, but I find others most unconvincing. I would like to continue this discussion with you, but the awkard nature of this forum - which does not …
Hello Haymanoteabew. I love your name. "Faith of the Fathers". Very nice.I have a few questions:1. Was His Holiness in fact restored to his Throne as Patriarch?2. Did he concelebrate the Liturgy with the other members of the Holy Synod when he re…
Sorry to resurrect an old thread, but I just cannot let this stand. ilovesaintmark said:[quote]1. The MECC did nothing to help with the return of His Holiness relative to the exile and deposition imposed by Sadat in the 80's. Gabriel Habib, the S…
Mina - Thanks! I'll be in touch!Rem - Thanks for the suggestion.Mabsoota - So far as I know, Sayedna Anba Antonious is still alive, may God preserve his life and health. He was invested with the title "Bishop of African Affairs" and given "the sta…
Qawe, frankly, people like you give me hope for the future of our Church. No one relishes talking about this stuff. I hate to, frankly. I find it painful and embarrassing. The fact that I hate discussing this stuff is why I have limited my posti…
Don't know what everyone is on about. From what I have seen on YouTube the Toronto Churches behave perfectly Orthodox in their practice.1. There is more than one church in the area qawe is referencing.2. Posting one video of one Liturgy doesn't prov…
Unless Fr. Peter has inside information that the rest of us are lacking, I think it's very important to note that the British Orthodox Church is still entirely orthodox in faith and practice - as it was when it was received into the Coptic Orthodox …
Ioannes, I agree with Ifamhy. Post the books here as pdfs. We need soldiers like you to keep up the fight here. Don't be discouraged. Look at how those who love Orthodoxy are slandered non-stop online as "bringing division in the Church" simply …
I think we're making progress. A year ago, a thread like this would've been full of people telling us we were wrong and arguing passionately and vitriolically for Protestantization. See the conversation here:
http://returntoorthodoxy.com/pope-taw…
Interesting thoughts. Very edifying. I like the bit about "imperial mission". Fr. Irenei says something similar. Mission is not about bringing more people into camp, but about transforming ourselves and the souls around us and leading them into …
But we're a hierarchical Church. If the Synod proclaims something, we're supposed to abide by it, not just ignore it.
It was probably proclaimed on the informal understanding that it would not be completely enforced.
That being said, there could…
I spoke to a bishop who told me that there's no such thing as a protestant/orthodox/catholic hymn. Either its orthodox/correct in the hymn's theology or its not.
That makes 'Allahu Akbar' OK too! And maybe even some Mormon/Jehovah's witness hymns.
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