Imikahil, I didn't understand when you said, "Does this make the other books inspired?" I thought all the books of the bible are considered to be the inspired word of God. If this is not the case, what is the measure of the standards being inspired …
I am not trying to create controversy, deceive people or revive an old topic, but I have found some fascinating facts and I wanted to share it in this trend and I also wanted an opinion and good explanation from the people who don't believe in the d…
Both the oldest full edition of the Bible which are the Codex Vaticanus and Codex Alexandrinus used Angels instead of “Sons of God” in Genesis 6 [ David R. Jackson Enochic Judaism: three defining paradigm exemplars 2004 p75], How will one explain th…
Sherene_maria, I think sons of Seth approach has minute evidence compared to the angles of God theory in Genesis 6 and let me ask you one question, do you know the reason, why it is not either sons of Enos or Sons of Cainan? and finally you are inte…
If we can look at part of his quote , "For unlawful unions came about on earth, as angels linked themselves with offspring of the daughters of men, who bore to them sons, who on account of their exceeding great were called Giants.
He said, "who bo…
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As for the Fathers, it is not just one Father or a couple who came up with a personal interpretation that can be rejected as you claimed in previous posts.
None of the fathe…
The question should not be asked whether angels had inter courses with women or not, but the question that should be raised is whether the book of enoch is divinely inspired or not? There are very strong arguments for the case of the Book of Enoch t…
K-man, What I meant with the leap of faith is reasonable because, even though there are ample amount of evidences for theories, we conclude it is true based on our logical reasoning and assumptions regardless of we experimented it or physically expe…
K-man, I assume that you are a biology major and definitely you might have more knowledge than us when it comes to theory of evolution and I am pretty much sure you are exposed to the arguments for the existence of God and just like you, I am a scie…
We are limited for giving proof to the existence of God even with the Holy Bible, but one important thing that we can provide is evidence for the existence of God. The most crucial evidence for me is, I haven’t seen an atheistic civilization in reco…
There are many passages both in the Old and New Testament that point to the fact that Baptism is mandatory and salvific, Baptism or "βαπτισμός" in Greek means to submerge or dip in water, From Baptism We will be saved(Mark 16:16),we get a second bir…
Well said,epchios_nai_nan,I think you explained the right answer in a very short and lucid manner,In addition to your explanation,God's majestic Creation is the creation of the universe,but after the Big-bang most of nature are subjected to evolve i…
I think,We underestimated the mind of satan,he is way smarter than we actually think of him,especially after acquiring his knowledge atleast 7000 years of his life time on earth and isn't he the one that qoute scriptures literally without even se…
No offense TITL,Why didn't you take things literally just like protestantism,I think what Ioannes meant was by joining Orthodox purity on facebook we could learn,teach and share knowledge with others to make the Orthodox Church pure and he took as a…
I don't know why most people are trying to unite Orthodoxy and protestantism,because they don't know how vastly we differ between each other and I feel sorry for the members of the Orthodox church who go to protestant churches and my reply for them …
I was also surprised that He is considered a saint by the Coptic Orthodox Church,Justin Martyr believed Angels had sex with women and begat children to them?
“for these things also He evidently made for man-committed the care of men and of all thi…
Father Peter,even though you made a good point on the fall of angels on interpretation,I disagree with you when you said, “this parallelism says nothing at all about angels falling after the Fall of Adam and Eve”, let me elaborate my point of view:
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John_S2000, The point here you missed is critical,I am not here to impose my opinion on anyone but the Evidences that we the proponents for the inspiration of the Book of Enoch brought in the forum are not still refuted.
John, I don’t why Evidence 5…
John_2000, You are demanding us questions,which are mysteries and not only mysteries but mysteries within a mystery and needs more depth to explain?The muslims have difficult time to grasp the Mystery of the Holy Trinity,like How could God be 3 dif…
Remenkeni,I think you are a bit biased in your argument about the “Sons of God” when you present your concordance and if my argument doesn’t satisfy you, you have to check what great Hebrew scholars like Michael Heiser(Phd) and others have to say ab…
Ioannes gave you good evidence for the union between angels and human just from Genesis 6 which you will never go around with either allegorical or literal interpretation,Every time The word "Sons of God " (B'nai HaElohim, בני האלהים ) is always men…
Enoch’s Hebrew nameחֲנוֹךְ “hanokh” or “Chanok” means "initiated, trained, dedicate or teach." This word is translated "train up" or “Teach” just as in Proverbs 22:6 "Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart f…
The claim that the book of Enoch is not quoted by St.Jude verbatim is very frail(1 Enoch 9 and Jude 14), The point you missed is that which version of the Book of Enoch are you using?The R H Charles Version, The Dead sea scroll version or The G’…
There are overwhelming evidences for the Book of Enoch to be divinely inspired more than any Deutro-canonical books.
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I think most of the people knows in the forum that the Apostle Jude quoted directly from the Book of Enoch whether it is…
I am pretty much sure in the next few decades,The view of Young Earth Creationism will almost die or the Faith of millions of Youth that are exposed to Science will erode, unless the Church and Her proponents should not strictly stick to a literal i…
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That's a very good point sordoeht - as a youth, I must say that this is one …
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I would also have to disagree, the sun could NOT have been created 3 days after the earth, you get way too many scientific errors with that view. Once again you should check out Dr Hugh Ross, an astronomer who is also a Christian. He said…
When we are claiming about origins of the Universe, we have to be very careful, especially for our future generations after Science have piled up it’s evidence that the earth is not less than 10,000 years old and Evolution is a Theory, we have t…